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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#12280
From: BuddyThunder
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:57
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 20, 3:20 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 18, 5:18�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:5b662486-64a5-475b-893e-61be952ea62a@k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Jul 18, 12:29?am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>> Smiler wrote:
>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:ad020ec9-a457-4dae-818d-182301ce08ba@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> On Jul 16, 12:01 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 11:29 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:01?am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Only an atheist would want all choices made for
>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>> Now there was me thinking that that was the mark of a worshipper.
>>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>> seems to me that atheists make their own choices, because they
>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>> have decisions ready-dictated to them.
>>>>>>>>>> So you think it is a mistake to decide ahead of time not to commit
>>>>>>>>>> murder, not to steal, to attend church, not to commit adultery, etc.
>>>>>>>>> Why would you be so morally deficient so as to need to perform
>>>>>>>>> morning
>>>>>>>>> affirmations in order not to kill people?
>>>>>>>>> My moral decisions are made as the occasion demands it. Seems to work
>>>>>>>>> okay.
>>>>>>>> So are you saying that for each person you encounter, you make a
>>>>>>>> decision to kill or not to kill?
>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>> No, I'm saying exactly the opposite. I need not make that decision at
>>>>>>> all, because I'm not filled with murderous rage.
>>>>>>> As moral decisions need to be made, I make them according to my own
>>>>>>> values.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>> So you would only decide to kill someone if you were filled with
>>>>>> murderous rage. ?A lot of serial killers seem to be the same way.
>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>> Most of whom are 'beleivers' in one god or another.
>>>>> We've got one on trial over here at the moment. He shot a guy, then
>>>>> tried to decapitate two women with a katana. Apparently God told him to
>>>>> do it. Hopefully the jury disagrees.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>> Almost every murderer today says that because they know the atheistic
>>>> court system will reward them for saying it.
>>>> =================================
>>>> Why would an "atheistic court system" reward someone who claimed to believe
>>>> in gods, skippy?
>>> Lawyers reward anyone who adds to their power and financial security.
>> You've got a whole "reward" thing going on at the moment, why is that?- Hide quoted text -
>>
> 
> I do not have anything going at the present time.  Lawyers were the
> people who started "plea bargaining" and did away with the right to
> trial by jury.

Hmmm. The word "reward" came up in your lexicon quite a bit there, I 
wondered if you'd been to a sermon. :-)
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