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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 19, 10:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 19, 10:11�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:9445436b-52c9-44e7-8b37-1a8008c43c98@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> On Jul 18, 5:32 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:42 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 4:11 am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 6:39?am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:38 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So are you admitting that you have sins? ?This would be a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first for an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheist. ?All other atheists tell me that they do not have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sins
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because whatever they do is not sin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have what YOU call sins. They aren't, because the concept is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meaningless. In absolute terms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right. ?Atheist Josef Stalin said the same thing when he killed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> million people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As opposed to Adolf Hitler ("I am now as before a Catholic and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always remain so." - quoted in John Towland's biog).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not to mention several Popes, who were happy to ordain the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indiscriminate massacres of Moslems in the name of the Cross.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not to mention the Christian fundamentalist GWB (and his father),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems happy to go to war against the people of any Moslem country
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has the audacity not to kow-tow to his government's wishes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no point in claiming that atheism breeds immorality, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christianity is the cure, because there are so many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> counter-examples in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both cases that the only conclusion any sensible person can draw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some people are good, some people are bad, and anyone can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drawn to or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> away from religion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TLA
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So was this John Towland an atheist?
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no idea, and it's not relevant anyway. He just wrote a biog
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hitler.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, Hitler was a politician saying what would make him popular
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the German people. His actions in his life show that he did
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe he would be punished for sins, much like atheists of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> today.
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...and any psychopath with temporal lobe epilepsy or schizophrenia
>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>> believes that massacring groups or whole races is OK, because
>>>>>>>>>>>> they've
>>>>>>>>>>>> God on their side. However, the point that you're trying to dodge,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> failing, is that as much evil is done in the name of religion, in
>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>> case Christian religion, as is done by those with none - probably
>>>>>>>>>>>> more.
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't find that an uncomfortable truth, you need to
>>>>>>>>>>>> recalibrate
>>>>>>>>>>>> your humanity.
>>>>>>>>>>>> TLA- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I don't really see much evidence of it. Stalin and Pol Pot
>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>> both atheists.
>>>>>>>>>> They were also both men. So what?
>>>>>>>>>>> But politicians who killed large numbers of people
>>>>>>>>>>> cannot compare with the numbers of people killed by abortion, which
>>>>>>>>>>> was done by governments controlled by atheistic political factions.
>>>>>>>>>> Number of abortions in United States since George W. Bush's
>>>>>>>>>> inauguration: Approximately 9 million
>>>>>>>>>> George W. Bush's religious affiliation: Christian
>>>>>>>>>> What were you saying again?
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> George W. Bush is completely irrelevant, as the next President of the
>>>>>>>>> United States will be. All major decisions are made by the atheistic
>>>>>>>>> Supreme Court, which at the present time holds the position of
>>>>>>>>> Judicial dictatorship in the United States.
>>>>>>>> Religious affiliations of Supreme Court Justices:
>>>>>>>> Roberts: Roman Catholic
>>>>>>>> Stevens: Protestant
>>>>>>>> Scalia: Roman Catholic
>>>>>>>> Kennedy: Roman Catholic
>>>>>>>> Souter: Episcopalian
>>>>>>>> Thomas: Roman Catholic
>>>>>>>> Breyer: Jewish
>>>>>>>> Alito: Roman Catholic
>>>>>>>> Ginsburg: Jewish
>>>>>>>> The Supreme Court follows the Constitution of the United States of
>>>>>>>> America, the federal law of the land.
>>>>>>>> What were you saying again?
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> During my lifetime the Supreme Court has not made even one decision
>>>>>>> that did not promote atheism. It does not matter if they all claim to
>>>>>>> be religious. Actions speak louder than words.
>>>>>> Perhaps you can name me one decision that "promoted atheism".
>>>> <piggybacking here to respond to Winn>
>>>>> Roe v. Wade
>>>> BZZT! �Roe v. Wade did not promote atheism. �Try again.
>>> Roe v. Wade accomplished one of the primary goals of atheism,
>> BZZT!  There are no goals of atheism.  Try again.
>>
>> --
> So you are saying that the atheistic rulers of China do not try to
> control the population of China by limiting reproduction to one child
> per couple?  Now we have the same kind of government here in the
> United States in which the atheistic members of the Supreme Court can
> begin to limit reproduction in the United States.  That is one reason
> why atheists have begun to promote homosexuality.  They see it as a
> means of limiting and controlling population.

You're sounding goofy again.