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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#12283
From: BuddyThunder
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:00
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 20, 3:30 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 19, 8:49 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, bobbie?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not believe in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of love, who in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be evil?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of Jesus?  What,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins.  That would include homosexuality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary before the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven.  That includes the sin of homosexuality.
>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin.  Unless you can find where it says that
>>>>>>>>>>>> it is.
>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do.  There is no one on
>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin.
>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What they do in
>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on Earth
>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem.  I said that you are able to tell
>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin.   If you say you cannot tell it is a sin,
>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth.
>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think it
>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any reason I
>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist Josef
>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people.  He was just born that way like
>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right?
>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky myths.
>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and centre.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior.  So is killing 12 million people.
>>>> Homosexuality is not immoral.
>>>> --
>>> Josef Stalin said that killing 12 million people was not immoral.
>> What kind of argument is that? Are you equivocating slaughter with
>> homosexuality?- Hide quoted text -
>>
> What is your question supposed to mean?  Equivocate does not mean to
> set something equal to something else.  This is a typical atheist
> question.  You people think you can change the world by asking
> ambiguous questions.

I didn't understand your link between Joseph Stalin and being gay. I was 
aksing for clarification. If you're not able to provide it...
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