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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:59
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On Jul 18, 10:31 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>
> > rbwinn wrote:
> > > On Jul 17, 5:42 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > >> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>> On Jul 17, 4:11 am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> > >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>> On Jul 15, 6:39�am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:38 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> So are you admitting that you have sins? �This would be a first for an
> > >>>>>>>>> atheist. �All other atheists tell me that they do not have sins
> > >>>>>>>>> because whatever they do is not sin.
> > >>>>>>>> I have what YOU call sins. They aren't, because the concept is
> > >>>>>>>> meaningless. In absolute terms.
> > >>>>>>> Right. �Atheist Josef Stalin said the same thing when he killed 12
> > >>>>>>> million people.
> > >>>>>> As opposed to Adolf Hitler ("I am now as before a Catholic and will
> > >>>>>> always remain so." - quoted in John Towland's biog).
> > >>>>>> Not to mention several Popes, who were happy to ordain the
> > >>>>>> indiscriminate massacres of Moslems in the name of the Cross.
> > >>>>>> Not to mention the Christian fundamentalist GWB (and his father), who
> > >>>>>> seems happy to go to war against the people of any Moslem country that
> > >>>>>> has the audacity not to kow-tow to his government's wishes.
> > >>>>>> There is no point in claiming that atheism breeds immorality, or that
> > >>>>>> Christianity is the cure, because there are so many counter-examples in
> > >>>>>> both cases that the only conclusion any sensible person can draw is that
> > >>>>>> some people are good, some people are bad, and anyone can be drawn to or
> > >>>>>> away from religion.
> > >>>>>> TLA
> > >>>>> So was this John Towland an atheist?
> > >>>> I have no idea, and it's not relevant anyway. He just wrote a biog of
> > >>>> Hitler.
> > >>>>> Anyway, Hitler was a politician saying what would make him popular
> > >>>>> with the German people.  His actions in his life show that he did not
> > >>>>> believe he would be punished for sins, much like atheists of today.
> > >>>> ...and any psychopath with temporal lobe epilepsy or schizophrenia who
> > >>>> believes that massacring groups or whole races is OK, because they've
> > >>>> God on their side. However, the point that you're trying to dodge, and
> > >>>> failing, is that as much evil is done in the name of religion, in this
> > >>>> case Christian religion, as is done by those with none - probably more.
> > >>>> If you don't find that an uncomfortable truth, you need to recalibrate
> > >>>> your humanity.
> > >>>> TLA- Hide quoted text -
> > >>> Well, I don't really see much evidence of it.  Stalin and Pol Pot were
> > >>> both atheists.
> > >> They were also both men.  So what?
>
> > >>> But politicians who killed large numbers of people
> > >>> cannot compare with the numbers of people killed by abortion, which
> > >>> was done by governments controlled by atheistic political factions.
> > >> Number of abortions in United States since George W. Bush's
> > >> inauguration: Approximately 9 million
> > >> George W. Bush's religious affiliation: Christian
>
> > >> What were you saying again?
>
> > >> --
>
> > > George W. Bush is completely irrelevant, as the next President of the
> > > United States will be.  All major decisions are made by the atheistic
> > > Supreme Court, which at the present time holds the position of
> > > Judicial dictatorship in the United States.
>
> > Religious affiliations of Supreme Court Justices:
> > Roberts: Roman Catholic
> > Stevens: Protestant
> > Scalia: Roman Catholic
> > Kennedy: Roman Catholic
> > Souter: Episcopalian
> > Thomas: Roman Catholic
> > Breyer: Jewish
> > Alito: Roman Catholic
> > Ginsburg: Jewish
>
> > The Supreme Court follows the Constitution of the United States of
> > America, the federal law of the land.
>
> > What were you saying again?
>
> > --
>
> During my lifetime the Supreme Court has not made even one decision
> that did not promote atheism.  It does not matter if they all claim to
> be religious.  Actions speak louder than words.
> Robert B. Winn

Actions do speak louder than words.  Whic is why I condemn Christians
as malignant bastards and atheists seem to be the best of humanity.

Al
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From: "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" <alwhipp@optusnet.com.au>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
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