🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

Article View: sci.physics
Article #12288

Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#12288
From: Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:05
85 lines
5619 bytes
On Jul 18, 10:41 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Jul 17, 7:10 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 16, 10:20 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 15, 6:39�am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > > rbwinn wrote:
> > > > > On Jul 14, 10:38 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> > > > >>> So are you admitting that you have sins? �This would be a first for an
> > > > >>> atheist. �All other atheists tell me that they do not have sins
> > > > >>> because whatever they do is not sin.
> > > > >> I have what YOU call sins. They aren't, because the concept is
> > > > >> meaningless. In absolute terms.
>
> > > > > Right. �Atheist Josef Stalin said the same thing when he killed 12
> > > > > million people.
>
> > > > As opposed to Adolf Hitler ("I am now as before a Catholic and will
> > > > always remain so." - quoted in John Towland's biog).
>
> > > > Not to mention several Popes, who were happy to ordain the
> > > > indiscriminate massacres of Moslems in the name of the Cross.
>
> > > > Not to mention the Christian fundamentalist GWB (and his father), who
> > > > seems happy to go to war against the people of any Moslem country that
> > > > has the audacity not to kow-tow to his government's wishes.
>
> > > > There is no point in claiming that atheism breeds immorality, or that
> > > > Christianity is the cure, because there are so many counter-examples in
> > > > both cases that the only conclusion any sensible person can draw is that
> > > > some people are good, some people are bad, and anyone can be drawn to or
> > > > away from religion.
>
> > > > TLA
>
> > > So was this John Towland an atheist?
> > > Anyway, Hitler was a politician saying what would make him popular
> > > with the German people.  His actions in his life show that he did not
> > > believe he would be punished for sins, much like atheists of today.
> > > Robert B. Winn
>
> > You must be a hateful person, simply because of your lousy life.
> > Sin is always in your mind that had been brainwashed into your brain
> > cells...see the evil of your religion?
> > Human being, regardless of who they are, are born not with any
> > "sin"....sin is what is being planted into your head.
> > The term sin is a meaningless word which is beyond your ability to
> > comprehend.
> > The children are all born beautiful and innocent. They learn, they
> > grow and they contribute to this world...this is fundamental for
> > human.
> > The loons are different....they are born with sin and always need to
> > ask for forgiveness, then commit sin again, then ask...a cycle and
> > finally depart to serve their god, never contribute to this world. Yet
> > they are as human as all others.\
>
> > Think deeply, if your brain cells can still function.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Well, you left out the children who are killed before they are born by
> abortion.
> Robert B. Winn

You left out the several billion (women, children and fetuses) that
die during childbirth due to unwanted and ill-advised pregnancies.
You left out the trillions of fetuses that die of natural causes due
to lack of good health-care, or simply because the mother wasn't
nourished enough.

Al
Technical Details
Message-ID: <3405c796-d7f7-4fc1-834c-95246ef4074f@p25g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!p25g2000pri.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
References: <sba274h0m6sfce2dq2q7nqsrh2lca5pnva@4ax.com> <VXcek.207772$312.19087@newsfe12.ams2> <5e791363-e59a-4c1b-8453-381b11520520@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com> <1215933505.29330.4@proxy01.news.clara.net> <ce606df3-c652-45f0-add3-e986068efeb8@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1215988954.24051.0@proxy02.news.clara.net> <6b7cfa92-806b-4a24-b730-77678ecc7680@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <1216029095.333.1@proxy00.news.clara.net> <da15541d-5d54-4cba-9a97-e93c56157e6f@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1216100393.16917.9@proxy01.news.clara.net> <d6fc20c0-098d-43b2-a8ec-3cc7b4d8dac7@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <kaSdndXcdpQZNeHVnZ2dnUVZ8rGdnZ2d@bt.com> <ccb99694-055d-4154-893a-872085daf30d@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <2422dce4-6d02-441f-ba67-1ac7f11c579b@l28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <e9592f4a-70fb-4626-96cf-38c22f4b0a11@v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>

Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Thread: 10b271,d932fee6d9806ab9
X-Google-Thread: 102f53,dac8026861d35fee
X-Google-Thread: f442a,d932fee6d9806ab9
X-Google-Thread: 116469,d932fee6d9806ab9
X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,gid102f53,gidf442a,gid116469,domainid0,public,usenet
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!p25g2000pri.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
From: "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" <alwhipp@optusnet.com.au>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:05:59 -0700 (PDT)
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Lines: 85
Message-ID: <3405c796-d7f7-4fc1-834c-95246ef4074f@p25g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
References: <sba274h0m6sfce2dq2q7nqsrh2lca5pnva@4ax.com> <VXcek.207772$312.19087@newsfe12.ams2> 
 <5e791363-e59a-4c1b-8453-381b11520520@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>
 <1215933505.29330.4@proxy01.news.clara.net> <ce606df3-c652-45f0-add3-e986068efeb8@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>
 <1215988954.24051.0@proxy02.news.clara.net> <6b7cfa92-806b-4a24-b730-77678ecc7680@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>
 <1216029095.333.1@proxy00.news.clara.net> <da15541d-5d54-4cba-9a97-e93c56157e6f@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>
 <1216100393.16917.9@proxy01.news.clara.net> <d6fc20c0-098d-43b2-a8ec-3cc7b4d8dac7@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
 <kaSdndXcdpQZNeHVnZ2dnUVZ8rGdnZ2d@bt.com> <ccb99694-055d-4154-893a-872085daf30d@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
 <2422dce4-6d02-441f-ba67-1ac7f11c579b@l28g2000prd.googlegroups.com>
 <e9592f4a-70fb-4626-96cf-38c22f4b0a11@v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 121.45.229.62
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1216587959 29902 127.0.0.1 (20 Jul 2008 21:05:59 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:05:59 +0000 (UTC)
Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
Injection-Info: p25g2000pri.googlegroups.com; posting-host=121.45.229.62; 
 posting-account=oq_tpwoAAABC0qABVCSraLayCjGQBILm
User-Agent: G2/1.0
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.16) 
 Gecko/20080702 Firefox/2.0.0.16,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)