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Article #12348Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:06
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:06
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On Jul 18, 4:53�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > news:c69cd50d-e6be-4867-b28c-daf380e58dd5@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 16, 4:58?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote: > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > >news:f6171404-48a8-4914-bfdd-caf1ed05ecaa@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > > On Jul 15, 1:18?am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > > > > Linda Fox wrote: > > > > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:23:59 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > >> ? I really believe that it certainly does prove certain verses in the > > > >> Old Testament to be true which describe the digging of Hezekiah's > > > >> tunnel. ?Otherwise, atheists need to explain why there is a tunnel > > > >> exactly where the Bible in three books of the Old Testament says a > > > >> tunnel was dug as a conduit for water. > > > > > Not all of the OT is theology - quite a fair amount of it is standard > > > > Jewish history, whether by aural tradition or, in the later books, > > > > written. As a parallel, we don't know how much of what we have from > > > > Homer is true of Greece and Troy, since that too is based on aural > > > > tradition which means it would have been embroidered, or even > > > > falsified, along the way. My own feeling about that is that much of > > > > the dynastic detail (apart from things like Helen being born out of > > > > Leda by Zeus as a swan) is possibly more reliable because when it was > > > > being passed down that was likely to have been the only kind of > > > > chronicle they could make; just a theory, though, and I doubt we'll > > > > ever know. > > > > > Linda ff > > > > surely its oral ?- as in spoken - rather than aural, as in > > > heard..tradition..? > > > > But broadly I agree. The Bible (OT) is the history, philosophy, myhology > > > and moral codes of a bunch of desert tribes. > > > > The NT is a political document written by the romans to keep the > > > barbarians in their place. > > > > With probably as much historical acccuracy as 'Conan the Barbarian'- > > > Hide > > > quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > The only writer of the new Testament who was a Roman citizen was Paul. > > ================================ > > All the writers were Roman citizens. > > No, only Paul. > ============================= > All of the gospels were written long after the supposed person they were > attributed to would have been dead. > Nobody knows who REALLY wrote them, but more than likely, the writers were > Roman. > > Smiler, No, they were written by Paul. Robert B. Winn
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