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Article #12356Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: BuddyThunder
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:16
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:16
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 18, 8:10 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 18, 3:58 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 17, 6:49 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:45 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:27 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:39 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" >>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:21 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 7:49 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" >>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 12:10 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:00 am, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 4:03 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:43�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:40 am, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2:54 pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your analysis, Peter. �I was merely expanding on a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement from an atheist to show where it was leading: �Atheists do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not believe anything. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not true, we believe you're a fuckin' moron... We even have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to take that as an article of faith. �The evidence isn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compelling. �We do have evidence that he's a liar. �So he could be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acting incredibly stupid, or more likely be stupid, it's impossible to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell. �But the evidence for lies is overwhelming. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, we believe he's as stupid as dog shit. �But we have evidence, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thus no need of faith, that he's a liar. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand your point, but I believe we have overwhelming evidence of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both. Bobby is a classic newsgroup troll who desparately craves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention. Lying is an excellent way to get attention, although it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normally means suffering considerable ridicule and insult in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I also believe he's rather unintelligent (as most newsgroup trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tend to be). He has shown a remarkable inability to absorb and integrate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new information presented to him. There's no indication he reads >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything outside of the few newsgroups he spends countless hours posting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in. And he has shown a breathtaking lack of self awareness and maturity, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether about his ridiculous physics kookiness or his puerile religious >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. Taken together these point to someone suffering from mental >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illness combined with a serious cognitive impairment, or as I prefer to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think of it, he's a fuckin' moron... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I'll agree it's a good summary. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al. You are agreeing with someone who has a weak mind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree or disagree with propositions. Not people. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And your statements are wrong. Profanity can be used by weak minds to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempt to make a strong statement. Just because someone uses profane >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language, does not mean they have a "weak mind". And what do you mean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by "weak mind"? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A weak mind is one that cannot deal with reality. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>>>>>> EG: Christians. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>> Some Christians do use profanity, but the biggest promoters of >>>>>>>>>>>>> profanity are atheists. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>>>> And yet the minds that demonstrably don't deal with reality are >>>>>>>>>>>> christians. Please do keep up. >>>>>>>>>>> Atheists are the people who are trying to make the Bible disappear. >>>>>>>>>> Yep. You've just demonstrated that you aren't dealing with reality. >>>>>>>>>> Atheists are not trying to make the Bible disappear. >>>>>>>>> Well, I think thy are. >>>>>>>> Your thoughts have no bearing on reality. >>>>>>>>> That is one reason why they are so intrigued >>>>>>>>> by Harry Potter books. >>>>>>>> Um, no. You still aren't getting it, are you? Harry Potter is just a >>>>>>>> convenient fiction story that is set on modern day Earth. We could've >>>>>>>> just as easily used ANY OTHER fiction story that is set on modern day Earth. >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> ****************************************************** >>>>>>>> * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * >>>>>>> Well, that is not going to happen when Harry Potter books were the >>>>>>> books that outsold the Bible for a short time. >>>>>> Um, no. That's not the reason. >>>>>> I could've easily used Fantastic Voyage, which was set in Washington DC. >>>>>> It even mentioned some buildings there. Therefore, miniaturization is >>>>>> real. >>>>>> Right? >>>>> Why don't you just take some time and decide for yourself? >>>> Why don't you address the point rather than simply issuing glib >>>> responses like the one above?- Hide quoted text - >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> There is no point that I can see. He is claiming that these four >>> books prove the Bible wrong in some way. >> No, he's not saying that they prove it false, he's saying your example >> of the tunnel offers no support for it. That's his point.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > So you are changing your mind again and saying that the tunnel does > not exist. Religion has broken your brain.
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