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Article #12357Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: BuddyThunder
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:14
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:14
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 18, 8:09 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 18, 2:40 am, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" >>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>> On Jul 17, 10:23 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>> On Jul 16, 7:43 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" >>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:36 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 15, 11:16 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 11:50 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:51 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 7:13 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" >>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:39 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 3:26 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 11:59 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 12:01�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Linda Fox" <linda...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:8vih74pvkgdkcmula0art55aogmd3pvne1@4ax.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:20:29 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A two year old is learning to lie or tell the truth. �If a two year >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old sees its parents lie all the time, then the two year old is going >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do the same thing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ho-kayyyy - tell us please, because we'd love to know, how a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two-year-old can tell its parents are lying when it does not know the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> truth itself. Unless it's by watching the nose grow longer and longer. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linda ff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This man obviously has no children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has absolutely no idea what a two year old can or can't do. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, Bobby, he's two. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has no fucking clue what an atheist or a theist is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He's under my feet right now, pushing toy cars around the floor and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shouting, "Beep Beep" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He doesn't even know what a lie is, so how can you expect him to recognize >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He does not even care. All he is doing is what he sees you doing. If >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he finds lying to be more effective in getting what he wants, he is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to lie. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well lets hope he nenver gets involved in religion then, so he wont need to. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How are you going to shield him from the Lorentz equations? If he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goes to school there are books everywhere explaining the miracle of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> length contraction. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What miracle? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If he is smart enough, he wont need to have it explained, he will work >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it out for himself: if he isn't smart enough, he will simply ignore it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as irrelevant to his life. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What he will never get, is someone telling him its the Truth, and if he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't believe it, he will go to hell for eternity. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientists say that the Lorentz equations show that an object in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> motion contracts in length relative to a frame of reference at rest >>>>>>>>>>>>>> until at the speed of light, the object has a length of zero. So you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are bringing up your son in a religion called atheism that has one >>>>>>>>>>>>>> miracle. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whether it is many miracles or only one, a miracle is a miracle. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>>>>> What makes you think Lorentz equations are part of atheism? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it the same delusion that has you repeatedly posting garbage into >>>>>>>>>>>>> alt.atheism? >>>>>>>>>>>> Most scientists of today are atheists. I was discussing the Lorentz >>>>>>>>>>>> equations with scientists in sci.physics.relativity when you atheists >>>>>>>>>>>> butted into the conversation in that newsgroup. >>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>>> Most scientists today are atheists, yes. But it's like saying most >>>>>>>>>>> people with blonde hair have blue eyes. The two things aren't >>>>>>>>>>> actually related. >>>>>>>>>>> And you keep lying about how you started this. One fruitcake who >>>>>>>>>>> claims to be both a scientist and a christian (but bizarely doesn't >>>>>>>>>>> understand rainbows) cross-posted originally and you waded in with >>>>>>>>>>> your lies and confusion into a topic that was already about proving >>>>>>>>>>> this god thing. And proceeded to lie about everyone. >>>>>>>>>>> And now you keep using this myth you've invented about atheists >>>>>>>>>>> posting into YOUR conversation about physics. >>>>>>>>>> I think the two could be related. Not saying they are, I think that it's >>>>>>>>>> likely though. Just my opinion.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>> I think they are related also. Scientists and atheists have a >>>>>>>>> religion that believes in one miracle, length contraction. >>>>>>>> liar. >>>>>>> Well, OK, Natural, show how the length contraction is not a miracle. >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>> Define "miracle" >>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - >>>>> Miracles are manifestations of higher laws. >>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>> Define "manifestation" and "higher laws". >>>> Al- Hide quoted text - >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> Al, why don't you just go to Merriam-Webster online and look them up >>> for yourself? If you do not understand words, just go to a >>> dictionary. >> Okay, had a look on dictionary.com. So do you think that your religion >> puts you above the law?- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Above what law? The law of the land.
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