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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 19, 10:51 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 19, 10:03 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 19, 12:11 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:13 am, "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 17 jul, 05:29, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 1:31 pm, "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 jul, 16:23, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 9:20 am, "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14 jul, 05:42, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 1:12 am, "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 jul, 16:22, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 12:10 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 7:29�am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:21:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You atheists seem to have a lot of trouble with the meanings of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> words. ?There was another atheist who seemed to believe that adult and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adulterer meant the same thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...which is an old joke that you obviously didn't get.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is a very foolish mistake. �Although the two words look and sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar, they mean very different things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd explain the meaning of "a play on words", but it would be like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pouring water on a rock and expecting it to sink in...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With atheists, it is not a play on words.  They really believe that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adulterers are the most mature adults.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Atheists don't believe anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More lies from the Prince of Lies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its amazing how much ore of an atheist I want to be, listening to you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, there you have it.  Atheists don't believe anything, they don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do anything, and they don't think anything.  It does not sound very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exciting to me, but maybe it does to an atheist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well. Atheist are not lying their butt off like you do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of them believe in natural explanations,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most of them have a job,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and many of them are intelligent enough not to make as silly a claim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as to say someone else doesn't think anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your statement would be truth though if it was made about dead people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But if all dead people are atheists, what would that mean for heaven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and hell?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Think about it!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am sure you have enough brains to understand,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I only doubt whether you will use them on this issue or perfer to keep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making silly statements
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter van Velzen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> July 2008
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amstelveen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Netherlands
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's where you are wrong, Peter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You think rbwinn got brain? OK, has a brain but without cells...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But you do not know he has mental problem, which the scientists have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not come up with any cure yet?- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I always assume that a person with whom I can have some kind of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conversation, is more or less intelligent in the same way I am.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Though rbwinn sometimes posts like a moron, that does not nescesarily
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean he is one. He sort of acknowledged he was actually mocking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheism, by pursuing the line "an atheist has no believe". And if that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would indeed be true, than logic requires that the atheist does not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think. For what is there to think about unless you believe something?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway I always treat posters as if they can understand what I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saying,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I will keep doing do, however hard those posters are trying not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Love,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter van Velzen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> July 2008
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amstelveen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Netherlands
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS In order to make this post I had to believe:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I exist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You exist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn exists
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My computer exists
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google exists
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (my provider doesn't provide Newsgroup access)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sci.physics,cam.mist,alt.sci.physics or alt.atheism exists
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> English exists
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The english words mean what I think they mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Others can understand the English I produce.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone who doesn't believe all of this (except maybe for Google and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot sensibly reply to your post.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Europeans are very existential.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
>>>>>>>>>>>> Somehow Robert, I do not think my philosophy is existentialism. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> think it rather borders on pragmatism. Discussions become rather
>>>>>>>>>>>> meaningsless, unless one accepts there is a ground for it. So in order
>>>>>>>>>>>> to exchange thought with you, I have to suppose that to be possible.
>>>>>>>>>>>> My main premise is that you are an intelligent human being, able to
>>>>>>>>>>>> understand what I am saying and able to make me understand what you
>>>>>>>>>>>> are thinking.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Besides discussions becoming worthless if this were not the case, I
>>>>>>>>>>>> think it's a mater of courtesy also.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Some peopleon usenet are very quick to dismiss others as inferior. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> admit some people have superior knowledge and/or superior
>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding. But communication works best if we try and find a way
>>>>>>>>>>>> to exchange ideas without making arrogant assumptions.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Even if someone says something that seems utterly stupid, one should
>>>>>>>>>>>> try an find out their reason for saying it. Many times we find out
>>>>>>>>>>>> that there is less stupidity in the person than in his/her words.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Love,
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I have never met an atheist who wanted to communicate.  What is
>>>>>>>>>>> it that you want to communicate?
>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
>>>>>>>>>>> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
>>>>>>>>>> To my amazement, my previous reply dissappeared.
>>>>>>>>>> So I will try to repost what I said then
>>>>>>>>>> Generally I want to communicate to people, that I care about them.
>>>>>>>>>> To you in particular I want to say that eveyone who calls himself an
>>>>>>>>>> atheist, does at least want to communnicate that he is one.
>>>>>>>>>> If you get the impression that atheists do not want to communicate,
>>>>>>>>>> that might be because of the negative way you are approaching them. A
>>>>>>>>>> liittle more open-mindedness might be sufficient for getting more
>>>>>>>>>> friendly replies.
>>>>>>>>>> As far as I can see, you are shouting out misconceptions about
>>>>>>>>>> atheists, that lead many of them to claim you are stupid.
>>>>>>>>>> I do not think you are stupid, but I do think you knowledge about
>>>>>>>>>> atheism is very poor.
>>>>>>>>>> That is what I want to say to you
>>>>>>>>>> (apart from the general fact that I care)
>>>>>>>>>> Peter van Velzen
>>>>>>>>> Well, there may be an atheist somewhere who is actually trying to be a
>>>>>>>>> good person just as there may be an honest lawyer somewhere, but these
>>>>>>>>> people in this newsgroup are not examples of that.   These are people
>>>>>>>>> who regard themselves as being more intelligent than others because
>>>>>>>>> they have rejected religion.
>>>>>>>> Nope, no one thinks that.  They're just more intelligent than you.
>>>>>>> Well, the correct definition of intelligence is the capacity to obey
>>>>>>> God.  That would seem to mean that you folks are a little bit lacking.
>>>>>> And that's why everyone in alt.atheism are more intelligent than you.
>>>>>> Intelligence:
>>>>>> capacity for learning, reasoning, understanding, and similar forms of
>>>>>> mental activity; aptitude in grasping truths, relationships, facts,
>>>>>> meanings, etc.
>>>>>> --
>>>>> If you want to believe you are more intelligent than I am, go ahead
>>>>> and believe that.  It does not mean anything to me.
>>>> Then why post to alt.atheism at all?
>>> I cannot see any reason to do it.  
>> So, you'll stop?
>>
>>> Maybe some of the other atheists
>>> could tell you why they do it.
>> Because they want to.
>
> I never started.  The only newsgroups I post to are sci.physics and
> sci.physics.relativity.

BZZT!  ALERT!  ALERT!  Lie detected!  Lie detected!  Commandment 9 
broken!  Commandment 9 broken!

You are posting to cam.misc and alt.atheism as well.  Check your 
headers, numbnuts.


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