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Article #12464Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:28
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:28
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On Jul 19, 10:50 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 19, 10:02 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 19, 12:06�pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:02:23 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> > >>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > >>>>> On Jul 19, 8:49�am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, bobbie? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not believe in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of love, who in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be evil? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of Jesus? �What, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. �That would include homosexuality. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary before the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. �That includes the sin of homosexuality. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. �Unless you can find where it says that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. �There is no one on > >>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin. > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What they do in > >>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on Earth > >>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. �I said that you are able to tell > >>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. � If you say you cannot tell it is a sin, > >>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth. > >>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think it > >>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any reason I > >>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist Josef > >>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. �He was just born that way like > >>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right? > >>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky myths. > >>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and centre.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. �So is killing 12 million people. > >>>>>> Homosexuality is not immoral. > >>>>> Explain it to Jesus Christ. �It does not have anything to do with me. > >>>> So you are now admitting that your earlier claim was dishonest and that > >>>> you do not have any evidence that it is immoral behavior. Maybe you can > >>>> learn.- Hide quoted text - > >>> Jesus Christ said it was immoral behavior. That makes it immoral > >>> behavior. > >> Where did he say it was immoral behavior? > > > Romans 2:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the > > woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working > > that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of > > their error which was meet. > > Err, I think you might have that wrong. My Bible says that Romans 2:27 > says: > > "The one who is not circumcised physically and yet obeys the law will > condemn you who, even though you have the written code and circumcision, > are a lawbreaker." > Typographical error. Romans 1:27. Robert b. Winn
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