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Article #12466Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:31
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:31
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On Jul 19, 10:52 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 19, 10:03 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 19, 12:16 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Jul 19, 8:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:15 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 11:52 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, bobbie? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not believe in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of love, who in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be evil? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of Jesus? What, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. That would include homosexuality. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary before the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. That includes the sin of homosexuality. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. Unless you can find where it says that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. There is no one on > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What they do in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on Earth > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. I said that you are able to tell > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. If you say you cannot tell it is a sin, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth. > >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think it > >>>>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any reason I > >>>>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist Josef > >>>>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. He was just born that way like > >>>>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right? > >>>>>>>>>> You mean your fellow male Josef Stalin. After all, if we're looking for > >>>>>>>>>> irrelevant similarities.... > >>>>>>>>> No, I meant your fellow atheist. Josef Stalin said he was not sinning > >>>>>>>>> for the same reason you say you are not sinning. > >>>>>>>> Cite? > >>>>>>> Well, here we see an example of atheist reasoning. All it takes to > >>>>>>> turn Josef Stalin into a Christian is to make the accusation. > >>>>>> Where did I say that? Are you making things up again? > >>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. They said he was a > >>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic. > >>>>> He was an alcoholic. > >>>> So, you're making things up again. > >>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was... > >>>> Hint #2: What school did Stalin go to in 1888? > >>>> -- > >>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. He rejected what he was > >>> taught there and became a mass murderer. > >> So, he was a Christian. > > >> -- > > > No, he was an atheist. At that particular time, he could not have > > become dictator of the Soviet Union if he had not been an atheist. > > And he was a Christian, too. > No, Stalin hated Christians as much as you do. Robert B. Winn
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