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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:32
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On Jul 18, 8:09 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 18, 2:40 am, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> > <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >> On Jul 17, 10:23 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On Jul 16, 7:43 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>> On Jul 17, 5:36 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 15, 11:16 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 14, 11:50 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:51 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 7:13 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:39 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 3:26 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 11:59 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 12:01�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Linda Fox" <linda...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:8vih74pvkgdkcmula0art55aogmd3pvne1@4ax.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:20:29 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A two year old is learning to lie or tell the truth. �If a two year
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old sees its parents lie all the time, then the two year old is going
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do the same thing.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ho-kayyyy - tell us please, because we'd love to know, how a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two-year-old can tell its parents are lying when it does not know the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> truth itself. Unless it's by watching the nose grow longer and longer.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linda ff
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This man obviously has no children.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has absolutely no idea what a two year old can or can't do.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, Bobby, he's two.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has no fucking clue what an atheist or a theist is.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He's under my feet right now, pushing toy cars around the floor and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shouting, "Beep Beep"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He doesn't even know what a lie is, so how can you expect him to recognize
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He does not even care.  All he is doing is what he sees you doing.  If
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he finds lying to be more effective in getting what he wants, he is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to lie.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well lets hope he nenver gets involved in religion then, so he wont need to.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How are you going to shield him from the Lorentz equations?  If he
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> goes to school there are books everywhere explaining the miracle of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> length contraction.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> What miracle?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If he is smart enough, he wont need to have it explained, he will work
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> it out for himself: if he isn't smart enough, he will simply ignore it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> as irrelevant to his life.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> What he will never get, is someone telling him its the Truth, and if he
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't believe it, he will go to hell for eternity.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Scientists say that the Lorentz equations show that an object in
> >>>>>>>>>>>> motion contracts in length relative to a frame of reference at rest
> >>>>>>>>>>>> until at the speed of light, the object has a length of zero.  So you
> >>>>>>>>>>>> are bringing up your son in a religion called atheism that has one
> >>>>>>>>>>>> miracle.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Whether it is many miracles or only one, a miracle is a miracle.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>> What makes you think Lorentz equations are part of atheism?
> >>>>>>>>>>> Is it the same delusion that has you repeatedly posting garbage into
> >>>>>>>>>>> alt.atheism?
> >>>>>>>>>> Most scientists of today are atheists.  I was discussing the Lorentz
> >>>>>>>>>> equations with scientists in sci.physics.relativity when you atheists
> >>>>>>>>>> butted into the conversation in that newsgroup.
> >>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>> Most scientists today are atheists, yes.  But it's like saying most
> >>>>>>>>> people with blonde hair have blue eyes.  The two things aren't
> >>>>>>>>> actually related.
> >>>>>>>>> And you keep lying about how you started this.  One fruitcake who
> >>>>>>>>> claims to be both a scientist and a christian (but bizarely doesn't
> >>>>>>>>> understand rainbows) cross-posted originally and you waded in with
> >>>>>>>>> your lies and confusion into a topic that was already about proving
> >>>>>>>>> this god thing.  And proceeded to lie about everyone.
> >>>>>>>>> And now you keep using this myth you've invented about atheists
> >>>>>>>>> posting into YOUR conversation about physics.
> >>>>>>>> I think the two could be related. Not saying they are, I think that it's
> >>>>>>>> likely though. Just my opinion.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>> I think they are related also.  Scientists and atheists have a
> >>>>>>> religion that believes in one miracle, length contraction.
> >>>>>> liar.
> >>>>> Well, OK, Natural, show how the length contraction is not a miracle.
> >>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>> Define "miracle"
> >>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
> >>> Miracles are manifestations of higher laws.
> >>> Robert B. Winn
> >> Define "manifestation" and "higher laws".
>
> >> Al- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Al, why don't you just go to Merriam-Webster online and look them up
> > for yourself?  If you do not understand words, just go to a
> > dictionary.
>
> Okay, had a look on dictionary.com. So do you think that your religion
> puts you above the law?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Above what law?
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:32:49 -0700 (PDT)
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