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Article #12496Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:32
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:32
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On Jul 18, 8:09 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 18, 2:40 am, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > > <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >> On Jul 17, 10:23 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > >>> On Jul 16, 7:43 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>> On Jul 17, 5:36 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>> On Jul 15, 11:16 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Jul 14, 11:50 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:51 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 7:13 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:39 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 3:26 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 11:59 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 12:01�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Linda Fox" <linda...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:8vih74pvkgdkcmula0art55aogmd3pvne1@4ax.com... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:20:29 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A two year old is learning to lie or tell the truth. �If a two year > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old sees its parents lie all the time, then the two year old is going > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do the same thing. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ho-kayyyy - tell us please, because we'd love to know, how a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two-year-old can tell its parents are lying when it does not know the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> truth itself. Unless it's by watching the nose grow longer and longer. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linda ff > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This man obviously has no children. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has absolutely no idea what a two year old can or can't do. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, Bobby, he's two. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has no fucking clue what an atheist or a theist is. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He's under my feet right now, pushing toy cars around the floor and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shouting, "Beep Beep" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He doesn't even know what a lie is, so how can you expect him to recognize > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He does not even care. All he is doing is what he sees you doing. If > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he finds lying to be more effective in getting what he wants, he is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to lie. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well lets hope he nenver gets involved in religion then, so he wont need to. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How are you going to shield him from the Lorentz equations? If he > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> goes to school there are books everywhere explaining the miracle of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> length contraction. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> What miracle? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> If he is smart enough, he wont need to have it explained, he will work > >>>>>>>>>>>>> it out for himself: if he isn't smart enough, he will simply ignore it > >>>>>>>>>>>>> as irrelevant to his life. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> What he will never get, is someone telling him its the Truth, and if he > >>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't believe it, he will go to hell for eternity. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Scientists say that the Lorentz equations show that an object in > >>>>>>>>>>>> motion contracts in length relative to a frame of reference at rest > >>>>>>>>>>>> until at the speed of light, the object has a length of zero. So you > >>>>>>>>>>>> are bringing up your son in a religion called atheism that has one > >>>>>>>>>>>> miracle. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Whether it is many miracles or only one, a miracle is a miracle. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>> What makes you think Lorentz equations are part of atheism? > >>>>>>>>>>> Is it the same delusion that has you repeatedly posting garbage into > >>>>>>>>>>> alt.atheism? > >>>>>>>>>> Most scientists of today are atheists. I was discussing the Lorentz > >>>>>>>>>> equations with scientists in sci.physics.relativity when you atheists > >>>>>>>>>> butted into the conversation in that newsgroup. > >>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>> Most scientists today are atheists, yes. But it's like saying most > >>>>>>>>> people with blonde hair have blue eyes. The two things aren't > >>>>>>>>> actually related. > >>>>>>>>> And you keep lying about how you started this. One fruitcake who > >>>>>>>>> claims to be both a scientist and a christian (but bizarely doesn't > >>>>>>>>> understand rainbows) cross-posted originally and you waded in with > >>>>>>>>> your lies and confusion into a topic that was already about proving > >>>>>>>>> this god thing. And proceeded to lie about everyone. > >>>>>>>>> And now you keep using this myth you've invented about atheists > >>>>>>>>> posting into YOUR conversation about physics. > >>>>>>>> I think the two could be related. Not saying they are, I think that it's > >>>>>>>> likely though. Just my opinion.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>> I think they are related also. Scientists and atheists have a > >>>>>>> religion that believes in one miracle, length contraction. > >>>>>> liar. > >>>>> Well, OK, Natural, show how the length contraction is not a miracle. > >>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>> Define "miracle" > >>>> Al- Hide quoted text - > >>> Miracles are manifestations of higher laws. > >>> Robert B. Winn > >> Define "manifestation" and "higher laws". > > >> Al- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > Al, why don't you just go to Merriam-Webster online and look them up > > for yourself? If you do not understand words, just go to a > > dictionary. > > Okay, had a look on dictionary.com. So do you think that your religion > puts you above the law?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Above what law? Robert B. Winn
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