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Article #12497Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:33
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:33
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On Jul 18, 8:10 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 18, 3:58 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 17, 6:49 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Jul 17, 5:45 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:27 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:39 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:21 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 7:49 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 12:10 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:00 am, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 4:03 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:43�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:40 am, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2:54 pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your analysis, Peter. �I was merely expanding on a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement from an atheist to show where it was leading: �Atheists do > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not believe anything. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not true, we believe you're a fuckin' moron... We even have > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to take that as an article of faith. �The evidence isn't > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compelling. �We do have evidence that he's a liar. �So he could be > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acting incredibly stupid, or more likely be stupid, it's impossible to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell. �But the evidence for lies is overwhelming. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, we believe he's as stupid as dog shit. �But we have evidence, and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thus no need of faith, that he's a liar. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand your point, but I believe we have overwhelming evidence of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both. Bobby is a classic newsgroup troll who desparately craves > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention. Lying is an excellent way to get attention, although it > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normally means suffering considerable ridicule and insult in the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I also believe he's rather unintelligent (as most newsgroup trolls > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tend to be). He has shown a remarkable inability to absorb and integrate > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new information presented to him. There's no indication he reads > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything outside of the few newsgroups he spends countless hours posting > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in. And he has shown a breathtaking lack of self awareness and maturity, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether about his ridiculous physics kookiness or his puerile religious > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. Taken together these point to someone suffering from mental > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illness combined with a serious cognitive impairment, or as I prefer to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think of it, he's a fuckin' moron... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I'll agree it's a good summary. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al. You are agreeing with someone who has a weak mind. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree or disagree with propositions. Not people. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And your statements are wrong. Profanity can be used by weak minds to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempt to make a strong statement. Just because someone uses profane > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> language, does not mean they have a "weak mind". And what do you mean > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> by "weak mind"? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>> A weak mind is one that cannot deal with reality. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>> EG: Christians. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>> Some Christians do use profanity, but the biggest promoters of > >>>>>>>>>>> profanity are atheists. > >>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>> And yet the minds that demonstrably don't deal with reality are > >>>>>>>>>> christians. Please do keep up. > >>>>>>>>> Atheists are the people who are trying to make the Bible disappear. > >>>>>>>> Yep. You've just demonstrated that you aren't dealing with reality. > >>>>>>>> Atheists are not trying to make the Bible disappear. > >>>>>>> Well, I think thy are. > >>>>>> Your thoughts have no bearing on reality. > >>>>>>> That is one reason why they are so intrigued > >>>>>>> by Harry Potter books. > >>>>>> Um, no. You still aren't getting it, are you? Harry Potter is just a > >>>>>> convenient fiction story that is set on modern day Earth. We could've > >>>>>> just as easily used ANY OTHER fiction story that is set on modern day Earth. > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> ****************************************************** > >>>>>> * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * > >>>>> Well, that is not going to happen when Harry Potter books were the > >>>>> books that outsold the Bible for a short time. > >>>> Um, no. That's not the reason. > >>>> I could've easily used Fantastic Voyage, which was set in Washington DC. > >>>> It even mentioned some buildings there. Therefore, miniaturization is > >>>> real. > >>>> Right? > >>> Why don't you just take some time and decide for yourself? > >> Why don't you address the point rather than simply issuing glib > >> responses like the one above?- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > There is no point that I can see. He is claiming that these four > > books prove the Bible wrong in some way. > > No, he's not saying that they prove it false, he's saying your example > of the tunnel offers no support for it. That's his point.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - So you are changing your mind again and saying that the tunnel does not exist. Robert B. Winn
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