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Article #12516Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:02
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:02
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On Jul 18, 3:50 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 18, 12:33 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 17, 1:08 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 17, 4:11 am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 15, 6:39�am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:38 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> So are you admitting that you have sins? �This would be a first for an
> >>>>>>>>>>> atheist. �All other atheists tell me that they do not have sins
> >>>>>>>>>>> because whatever they do is not sin.
> >>>>>>>>>> I have what YOU call sins. They aren't, because the concept is
> >>>>>>>>>> meaningless. In absolute terms.
> >>>>>>>>> Right. �Atheist Josef Stalin said the same thing when he killed 12
> >>>>>>>>> million people.
> >>>>>>>> As opposed to Adolf Hitler ("I am now as before a Catholic and will
> >>>>>>>> always remain so." - quoted in John Towland's biog).
> >>>>>>>> Not to mention several Popes, who were happy to ordain the
> >>>>>>>> indiscriminate massacres of Moslems in the name of the Cross.
> >>>>>>>> Not to mention the Christian fundamentalist GWB (and his father), who
> >>>>>>>> seems happy to go to war against the people of any Moslem country that
> >>>>>>>> has the audacity not to kow-tow to his government's wishes.
> >>>>>>>> There is no point in claiming that atheism breeds immorality, or that
> >>>>>>>> Christianity is the cure, because there are so many counter-examples in
> >>>>>>>> both cases that the only conclusion any sensible person can draw is that
> >>>>>>>> some people are good, some people are bad, and anyone can be drawn to or
> >>>>>>>> away from religion.
> >>>>>>>> TLA
> >>>>>>> So was this John Towland an atheist?
> >>>>>> I have no idea, and it's not relevant anyway. He just wrote a biog of
> >>>>>> Hitler.
> >>>>>>> Anyway, Hitler was a politician saying what would make him popular
> >>>>>>> with the German people. His actions in his life show that he did not
> >>>>>>> believe he would be punished for sins, much like atheists of today.
> >>>>>> ...and any psychopath with temporal lobe epilepsy or schizophrenia who
> >>>>>> believes that massacring groups or whole races is OK, because they've
> >>>>>> God on their side. However, the point that you're trying to dodge, and
> >>>>>> failing, is that as much evil is done in the name of religion, in this
> >>>>>> case Christian religion, as is done by those with none - probably more.
> >>>>>> If you don't find that an uncomfortable truth, you need to recalibrate
> >>>>>> your humanity.
> >>>>>> TLA- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>> Well, I don't really see much evidence of it. Stalin and Pol Pot were
> >>>>> both atheists. But politicians who killed large numbers of people
> >>>>> cannot compare with the numbers of people killed by abortion, which
> >>>>> was done by governments controlled by atheistic political factions.
> >>>> Your vitriol against atheists is kinda cute in a psycho sort of way.
> >>>> Where do I sign up for the genocides? I need to do my atheistic duty. Is
> >>>> it the same place Mormons get their brains removed?- Hide quoted text -
> >>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>> All you have to do is vote for your pro-abortion politicians. That
> >>> makes it pretty easy for homicidal people of today, doesn't it?
> >>> However, my observation is that the blood of unborn children is not
> >>> going to satisfy homicidal people forever. Eventually, they are going
> >>> to demand a more active role in homicide.
> >> Yeah, we'll start coming after the religious nuts! Woohoo!! *slaver*
> >> *drooooool*- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > The prophecy is that almost all people will be at war in the last
> > days.
>
> Well, you go and have a war if you want, but I don't fancy it at all.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
According to the prophecy, the only people who will not be at war will
be followers of Jesus Christ.
Robert B. Winn
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