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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 18, 5:48 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 17, 6:51 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:45 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:31 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 8:36 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 1:04 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:21 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:43�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:40 am, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2:54 pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your analysis, Peter. �I was merely expanding on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement from an atheist to show where it was leading: �Atheists do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not believe anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not true, we believe you're a fuckin' moron... We even have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to take that as an article of faith. �The evidence isn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compelling. �We do have evidence that he's a liar. �So he could be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acting incredibly stupid, or more likely be stupid, it's impossible to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell. �But the evidence for lies is overwhelming.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, we believe he's as stupid as dog shit. �But we have evidence, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thus no need of faith, that he's a liar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand your point, but I believe we have overwhelming evidence of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both. Bobby is a classic newsgroup troll who desparately craves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention. Lying is an excellent way to get attention, although it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normally means suffering considerable ridicule and insult in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I also believe he's rather unintelligent (as most newsgroup trolls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tend to be). He has shown a remarkable inability to absorb and integrate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new information presented to him. There's no indication he reads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything outside of the few newsgroups he spends countless hours posting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in. And he has shown a breathtaking lack of self awareness and maturity,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether about his ridiculous physics kookiness or his puerile religious
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. Taken together these point to someone suffering from mental
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illness combined with a serious cognitive impairment, or as I prefer to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think of it, he's a fuckin' moron...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I'll agree it's a good summary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al.  You are agreeing with someone who has a weak mind.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Being upset about a select set of simple sounds is strange to me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is such a non-issue for grown-ups, I'm far more interested in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ideas conveyed by the words. You're using the profanity to ignore
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> You do not have a point.  You are using various ideas as an excuse to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> use profanity.   It would be more honest to just leave out the ideas
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and have the profanity by itself.
>>>>>>>>>>>> What an odd idea. I don't believe profanity needs an excuse, it's simply
>>>>>>>>>>>> a language feature that can be leveraged just like any other.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea is still conveyed, often more forcefully. If it makes you
>>>>>>>>>>>> uncomfortable and lets you avoid the point being made, then I'd have
>>>>>>>>>>>> thought you'd have been grateful for the "out"!
>>>>>>>>>>>> How is being profane dishonest?
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>>>>>>>>>>> Well, not quite normal.  I get tired of atheists who can be totally
>>>>>>>>>>> unprofane except when they are talking to me.
>>>>>>>>>>> Take it somewhere else.
>>>>>>>>>> Would you like some cheese with that whine?
>>>>>>>>>> If you don't like how atheists are talking to you, you can certainly
>>>>>>>>>> snip our newsgroup out of your headers.
>>>>>>>>> The behavior of atheists can be changed.  I just go ahead and change
>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>> Pride is a sin.
>>>>>>> Yes, that is correct.
>>>>>> So, you just sinned.
>>>>> In what way did I sin?
>>>> Imagining that you have the ability to change atheists.  The sin?  Pride.
>>> I do not imagine anything.  I just do things.
>> Sorry, but you're still imagining.  Name me one atheist that you've
>> "changed".
>>
> 
> All atheists with whom I have spoken have changed.

I can honestly say that any changes in me over the course of this thread 
have had nothing at all to do with you. Just so you're under no 
illusions. :-)