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On Jul 18, 5:48 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 17, 6:51 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 17, 5:45 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 17, 5:31 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 16, 8:36 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 1:04 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:21 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:43�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:40 am, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2:54 pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your analysis, Peter. �I was merely expanding on a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement from an atheist to show where it was leading: �Atheists do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not believe anything.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not true, we believe you're a fuckin' moron... We even have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to take that as an article of faith. �The evidence isn't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compelling. �We do have evidence that he's a liar. �So he could be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acting incredibly stupid, or more likely be stupid, it's impossible to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell. �But the evidence for lies is overwhelming.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, we believe he's as stupid as dog shit. �But we have evidence, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thus no need of faith, that he's a liar.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand your point, but I believe we have overwhelming evidence of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both. Bobby is a classic newsgroup troll who desparately craves
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention. Lying is an excellent way to get attention, although it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normally means suffering considerable ridicule and insult in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I also believe he's rather unintelligent (as most newsgroup trolls
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tend to be). He has shown a remarkable inability to absorb and integrate
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new information presented to him. There's no indication he reads
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything outside of the few newsgroups he spends countless hours posting
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in. And he has shown a breathtaking lack of self awareness and maturity,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether about his ridiculous physics kookiness or his puerile religious
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. Taken together these point to someone suffering from mental
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illness combined with a serious cognitive impairment, or as I prefer to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think of it, he's a fuckin' moron...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I'll agree it's a good summary.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Al.  You are agreeing with someone who has a weak mind.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Being upset about a select set of simple sounds is strange to me.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is such a non-issue for grown-ups, I'm far more interested in
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the ideas conveyed by the words. You're using the profanity to ignore
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the point.- Hide quoted text -
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> >>>>>>>>>>> You do not have a point.  You are using various ideas as an excuse to
> >>>>>>>>>>> use profanity.   It would be more honest to just leave out the ideas
> >>>>>>>>>>> and have the profanity by itself.
> >>>>>>>>>> What an odd idea. I don't believe profanity needs an excuse, it's simply
> >>>>>>>>>> a language feature that can be leveraged just like any other.
> >>>>>>>>>> The idea is still conveyed, often more forcefully. If it makes you
> >>>>>>>>>> uncomfortable and lets you avoid the point being made, then I'd have
> >>>>>>>>>> thought you'd have been grateful for the "out"!
> >>>>>>>>>> How is being profane dishonest?
> >>>>>>>>>> It's really quite normal. Even among the religious.- Hide quoted text -
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> >>>>>>>>> Well, not quite normal.  I get tired of atheists who can be totally
> >>>>>>>>> unprofane except when they are talking to me.
> >>>>>>>>> Take it somewhere else.
> >>>>>>>> Would you like some cheese with that whine?
> >>>>>>>> If you don't like how atheists are talking to you, you can certainly
> >>>>>>>> snip our newsgroup out of your headers.
> >>>>>>> The behavior of atheists can be changed.  I just go ahead and change
> >>>>>>> it.
> >>>>>> Pride is a sin.
> >>>>> Yes, that is correct.
> >>>> So, you just sinned.
> >>> In what way did I sin?
> >> Imagining that you have the ability to change atheists.  The sin?  Pride.
>
> > I do not imagine anything.  I just do things.
>
> Sorry, but you're still imagining.  Name me one atheist that you've
> "changed".
>

All atheists with whom I have spoken have changed.
Robert B. Winn