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Article #12558Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:37
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:37
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On Jul 18, 5:49 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 17, 7:10 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Jul 16, 10:20 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On Jul 15, 6:39�am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 14, 10:38 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>> So are you admitting that you have sins? �This would be a first for an
> >>>>>>> atheist. �All other atheists tell me that they do not have sins
> >>>>>>> because whatever they do is not sin.
> >>>>>> I have what YOU call sins. They aren't, because the concept is
> >>>>>> meaningless. In absolute terms.
> >>>>> Right. �Atheist Josef Stalin said the same thing when he killed 12
> >>>>> million people.
> >>>> As opposed to Adolf Hitler ("I am now as before a Catholic and will
> >>>> always remain so." - quoted in John Towland's biog).
> >>>> Not to mention several Popes, who were happy to ordain the
> >>>> indiscriminate massacres of Moslems in the name of the Cross.
> >>>> Not to mention the Christian fundamentalist GWB (and his father), who
> >>>> seems happy to go to war against the people of any Moslem country that
> >>>> has the audacity not to kow-tow to his government's wishes.
> >>>> There is no point in claiming that atheism breeds immorality, or that
> >>>> Christianity is the cure, because there are so many counter-examples in
> >>>> both cases that the only conclusion any sensible person can draw is that
> >>>> some people are good, some people are bad, and anyone can be drawn to or
> >>>> away from religion.
> >>>> TLA
> >>> So was this John Towland an atheist?
> >>> Anyway, Hitler was a politician saying what would make him popular
> >>> with the German people. His actions in his life show that he did not
> >>> believe he would be punished for sins, much like atheists of today.
> >>> Robert B. Winn
> >> You must be a hateful person, simply because of your lousy life.
> >> Sin is always in your mind that had been brainwashed into your brain
> >> cells...see the evil of your religion?
> >> Human being, regardless of who they are, are born not with any
> >> "sin"....sin is what is being planted into your head.
> >> The term sin is a meaningless word which is beyond your ability to
> >> comprehend.
> >> The children are all born beautiful and innocent. They learn, they
> >> grow and they contribute to this world...this is fundamental for
> >> human.
> >> The loons are different....they are born with sin and always need to
> >> ask for forgiveness, then commit sin again, then ask...a cycle and
> >> finally depart to serve their god, never contribute to this world. Yet
> >> they are as human as all others.\
>
> >> Think deeply, if your brain cells can still function.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Well, you left out the children who are killed before they are born by
> > abortion.
>
> There are no children before birth.
>
> --
> ******************************************************
> * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
Well we are using words as they were used before atheists claimed to
have changed the meanings. Here is why you want to get rid of the
Bible. It shows the real meaning of the word child.
Luke 2:4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of
Nazareth, into Judea, unto the city ofDavid, which is called
Bethlehem; (because he was of thehouse and lineage of David:)
5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
Robert B. Winn
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