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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#12571
From: Smiler
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 01:16
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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message 
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On Jul 16, 9:37?am, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
> <hhyaps...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:28be0ed1-17c0-4089-8117-c9b9f0392293@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 15, 4:30 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
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> > Steve O wrote:
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> > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> > >news:a3c2b9ae-59ae-4bfd-b7cf-fcda98b26225@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> > >> On Jul 14, 5:12?pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> > >>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> > >>>news:44f19f98-4d96-4419-a87a-d6bdbd73f31b@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
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> > >>> >> > Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry
> > >>> Potter >> > has
> > >>> >> > to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in
> > >>> Harry
> > >>> >> > Potter.
>
> > >>> >> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, 
> > >>> >> the
> > >>> >> fact
> > >>> >> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we
> > >>> >> have
> > >>> >> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction.
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> > >>> >> By your reasoning at least.
>
> > >>> > Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is.
> > >>> > Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean.
> > >>> > Robert B. Winn
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> > >>> Here is an example of rbwinn's logic.
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> > >>> Sheep are mentioned in the bible
> > >>> Sheep exist today
> > >>> The bible is accurate and there is a God
>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Steve O
> > >> Well, no, Steve O. ?Here is an example. ?Atheists were claiming that
> > >> nothing existed on earth today that could prove anything in the
> > >> Bible. ?So I said, What about Hezekiah's tunnel? ?These atheists had
> > >> never heard of Hezekiah's tunnel. ?So after they looked it up, they
> > >> said, The fact that a tunnel exists no more proves the Bible to be
> > >> true than Harry Potter leaving from the train station in London to go
> > >> to wizard's school.
>
> > > Here's where you get confused every time. (or deliberately lie)
> > > When they said "nothing exists on earth today that could prove 
> > > anything
> > > in the bible" they were talking about the SPECIAL claims in the bible,
> > > not the ordinary mundane things such as tunnels, sheep, goats or
> > > shekels.
> > > Yet, for some reason, you choose to lie about this and attribute 
> > > claims
> > > to atheists which ?don't exist.
> > > You are either a complete liar or you are stuck on stupid.
>
> > Both.
> > Its fairly clear our robbo is probably schizoid, probably desperately
> > confused, and probably on medication, and has access to a terminal.And
> > is not the brightest candle in the coal mine.
>
> > He's desperately trying to put some meaning in his life, to make some
> > sense of it, and the Bible is his latest bag. ?It probably puts some
> > hope in a hopeless life.
>
> > He's just smart enough to see what a mess his life is, but not smart
> > enough to work out how to change it by himself: so naturally he looks
> > for help. No one has probably given him any, but the bible makes him a
> > promise. By fixating on the Jesus symbol, he at least has one constant
> > thing to cling to and some hope. In short, he is addicted to Jesus.
>
> > It's probably slightly better than being addicted to smack, and its
> > certainly a lot cheaper.
>
> > I've met more than a few robbos in my time. There's probably some
> > intelligence there, but coupled to an unusual mental condition. Such
> > peoples experience is not ordinary, and their attempts to make sense of
> > it result in some pretty weird ways of thinking about it and dealing
> > with it. Often they get involved in some cult or other. Or end up
> > prematurely dead from drug overdoses and the like. Or go off the rails
> > and start seeing visions and end up in the funny farm.
>
> Probably very true of rbwinn.
> When he told us that he is a welder, I actually wrote some real advise
> for him to work hard and look forward towards a retirement, instead of
> wasting time in the church on Sundays. Sundays pay thrice as much.
> However, my email could not get through...
> ====================================
> Does anything ever 'get through' to him?
> I very much doubt it.
>

I do not plan to retire.  What did you think, that I want to be
useless like an atheist?
========================
QED

Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279 
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