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On Jul 18, 5:32 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 17, 5:42 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 17, 4:11 am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 15, 6:39�am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:38 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> So are you admitting that you have sins? �This would be a first for an
> >>>>>>>>>>> atheist. �All other atheists tell me that they do not have sins
> >>>>>>>>>>> because whatever they do is not sin.
> >>>>>>>>>> I have what YOU call sins. They aren't, because the concept is
> >>>>>>>>>> meaningless. In absolute terms.
> >>>>>>>>> Right. �Atheist Josef Stalin said the same thing when he killed 12
> >>>>>>>>> million people.
> >>>>>>>> As opposed to Adolf Hitler ("I am now as before a Catholic and will
> >>>>>>>> always remain so." - quoted in John Towland's biog).
> >>>>>>>> Not to mention several Popes, who were happy to ordain the
> >>>>>>>> indiscriminate massacres of Moslems in the name of the Cross.
> >>>>>>>> Not to mention the Christian fundamentalist GWB (and his father), who
> >>>>>>>> seems happy to go to war against the people of any Moslem country that
> >>>>>>>> has the audacity not to kow-tow to his government's wishes.
> >>>>>>>> There is no point in claiming that atheism breeds immorality, or that
> >>>>>>>> Christianity is the cure, because there are so many counter-examples in
> >>>>>>>> both cases that the only conclusion any sensible person can draw is that
> >>>>>>>> some people are good, some people are bad, and anyone can be drawn to or
> >>>>>>>> away from religion.
> >>>>>>>> TLA
> >>>>>>> So was this John Towland an atheist?
> >>>>>> I have no idea, and it's not relevant anyway. He just wrote a biog of
> >>>>>> Hitler.
> >>>>>>> Anyway, Hitler was a politician saying what would make him popular
> >>>>>>> with the German people.  His actions in his life show that he did not
> >>>>>>> believe he would be punished for sins, much like atheists of today.
> >>>>>> ...and any psychopath with temporal lobe epilepsy or schizophrenia who
> >>>>>> believes that massacring groups or whole races is OK, because they've
> >>>>>> God on their side. However, the point that you're trying to dodge, and
> >>>>>> failing, is that as much evil is done in the name of religion, in this
> >>>>>> case Christian religion, as is done by those with none - probably more.
> >>>>>> If you don't find that an uncomfortable truth, you need to recalibrate
> >>>>>> your humanity.
> >>>>>> TLA- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>> Well, I don't really see much evidence of it.  Stalin and Pol Pot were
> >>>>> both atheists.  
> >>>> They were also both men.  So what?
> >>>>> But politicians who killed large numbers of people
> >>>>> cannot compare with the numbers of people killed by abortion, which
> >>>>> was done by governments controlled by atheistic political factions.
> >>>> Number of abortions in United States since George W. Bush's
> >>>> inauguration: Approximately 9 million
> >>>> George W. Bush's religious affiliation: Christian
> >>>> What were you saying again?
> >>>> --
> >>> George W. Bush is completely irrelevant, as the next President of the
> >>> United States will be.  All major decisions are made by the atheistic
> >>> Supreme Court, which at the present time holds the position of
> >>> Judicial dictatorship in the United States.
> >> Religious affiliations of Supreme Court Justices:
> >> Roberts: Roman Catholic
> >> Stevens: Protestant
> >> Scalia: Roman Catholic
> >> Kennedy: Roman Catholic
> >> Souter: Episcopalian
> >> Thomas: Roman Catholic
> >> Breyer: Jewish
> >> Alito: Roman Catholic
> >> Ginsburg: Jewish
>
> >> The Supreme Court follows the Constitution of the United States of
> >> America, the federal law of the land.
>
> >> What were you saying again?
>
> >> --
> > During my lifetime the Supreme Court has not made even one decision
> > that did not promote atheism.  It does not matter if they all claim to
> > be religious.  Actions speak louder than words.
>
> Perhaps you can name me one decision that "promoted atheism".
>
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> *          DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226            *
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> * "I distrust those people who know so well what God *
> *  wants them to do because I notice it always       *
> *  coincides with their own desires."                *
> *                                 --Susan B. Anthony *
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Roe v. Wade

Robert B. Winn