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On Jul 17, 12:55 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 15, 11:57 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 14, 11:23 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 14, 5:12�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>news:44f19f98-4d96-4419-a87a-d6bdbd73f31b@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>>>>> Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry Potter has
> >>>>>>>>> to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in Harry
> >>>>>>>>> Potter.
> >>>>>>>> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the fact
> >>>>>>>> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we have
> >>>>>>>> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction.
> >>>>>>>> By your reasoning at least.
> >>>>>>> Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is.
> >>>>>>> Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean.
> >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>> Here is an example of rbwinn's logic.
> >>>>>> Sheep are mentioned in the bible
> >>>>>> Sheep exist today
> >>>>>> The bible is accurate and there is a God
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Steve O
> >>>>> Well, no, Steve O.  Here is an example.  Atheists were claiming that
> >>>>> nothing existed on earth today that could prove anything in the
> >>>>> Bible.
> >>>> And yet you've been unable to produce these mythical posts. Well, you do
> >>>> seem to like myths...
> >>>>>  So I said, What about Hezekiah's tunnel?  These atheists had
> >>>>> never heard of Hezekiah's tunnel.  So after they looked it up, they
> >>>>> said, The fact that a tunnel exists no more proves the Bible to be
> >>>>> true than Harry Potter leaving from the train station in London to go
> >>>>> to wizard's school.
> >>>> In a slightly mangled sense, yes that was me. I'd never heard of
> >>>> Hezekiah's tunnel. Now I have. I still can't see how it supports the
> >>>> existence of any gods. Assuming it's the same tunnel (which hasn't been
> >>>> established AFAIK), so what? People sometimes write things about stuff.
> >>>> Does that automatically render it true?
> >>>>>    I really believe that it certainly does prove certain verses in the
> >>>>> Old Testament to be true which describe the digging of Hezekiah's
> >>>>> tunnel.  Otherwise, atheists need to explain why there is a tunnel
> >>>>> exactly where the Bible in three books of the Old Testament says a
> >>>>> tunnel was dug as a conduit for water.
> >>>> I might point out that the physical evidence doesn't accord well with
> >>>> the account of the tunnel's construction. Even if you're right, it's
> >>>> simply shows that a tunnel was built, not that gods exist.
> >>>> If you want to infer more than is logical from this, go for it! But to
> >>>> maintain a degree of intellectual honesty, I cannot follow.- Hide quoted text -
> >>> Well, obviously, you have not studied the history of that time.
> >>> Robert B. Winn
> >> I haven't much, and yet I still know that. Additionally, the Bible
> >> contains some history, but doesn't qualify as a whole. It's far too
> >> unreliable.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > Well, I understan why atheists would want to believe Sennacherib's
> > account of the Assyrian invasion of Judea over the Biblical account,
> > but, obviously, Sennacherib was lying.  Chaldean historians agree with
> > the Biblical account.  Sennacherib lost his entire army at Jerusalem.
>
> Obviously. Ummmm..... why again? Why would either of them have to be the
> "gospel truth"?- Hide quoted text -
>
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Sennacherib had to lie about the loss of his army because he had been
left in a precarious position, as events soon proved when he was
murdered by two of his own sons.
Robert B. Winn