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Article #12662Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: BuddyThunder
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:55
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:55
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 15, 11:57 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 14, 11:23 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 14, 5:12�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:44f19f98-4d96-4419-a87a-d6bdbd73f31b@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>> Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry Potter has >>>>>>>>> to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in Harry >>>>>>>>> Potter. >>>>>>>> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the fact >>>>>>>> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we have >>>>>>>> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction. >>>>>>>> By your reasoning at least. >>>>>>> Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is. >>>>>>> Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean. >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>> Here is an example of rbwinn's logic. >>>>>> Sheep are mentioned in the bible >>>>>> Sheep exist today >>>>>> The bible is accurate and there is a God >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Steve O >>>>> Well, no, Steve O. Here is an example. Atheists were claiming that >>>>> nothing existed on earth today that could prove anything in the >>>>> Bible. >>>> And yet you've been unable to produce these mythical posts. Well, you do >>>> seem to like myths... >>>>> So I said, What about Hezekiah's tunnel? These atheists had >>>>> never heard of Hezekiah's tunnel. So after they looked it up, they >>>>> said, The fact that a tunnel exists no more proves the Bible to be >>>>> true than Harry Potter leaving from the train station in London to go >>>>> to wizard's school. >>>> In a slightly mangled sense, yes that was me. I'd never heard of >>>> Hezekiah's tunnel. Now I have. I still can't see how it supports the >>>> existence of any gods. Assuming it's the same tunnel (which hasn't been >>>> established AFAIK), so what? People sometimes write things about stuff. >>>> Does that automatically render it true? >>>>> I really believe that it certainly does prove certain verses in the >>>>> Old Testament to be true which describe the digging of Hezekiah's >>>>> tunnel. Otherwise, atheists need to explain why there is a tunnel >>>>> exactly where the Bible in three books of the Old Testament says a >>>>> tunnel was dug as a conduit for water. >>>> I might point out that the physical evidence doesn't accord well with >>>> the account of the tunnel's construction. Even if you're right, it's >>>> simply shows that a tunnel was built, not that gods exist. >>>> If you want to infer more than is logical from this, go for it! But to >>>> maintain a degree of intellectual honesty, I cannot follow.- Hide quoted text - >>> Well, obviously, you have not studied the history of that time. >>> Robert B. Winn >> I haven't much, and yet I still know that. Additionally, the Bible >> contains some history, but doesn't qualify as a whole. It's far too >> unreliable.- Hide quoted text - >> > > Well, I understan why atheists would want to believe Sennacherib's > account of the Assyrian invasion of Judea over the Biblical account, > but, obviously, Sennacherib was lying. Chaldean historians agree with > the Biblical account. Sennacherib lost his entire army at Jerusalem. Obviously. Ummmm..... why again? Why would either of them have to be the "gospel truth"?
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