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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: hhyapster
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 03:09
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On Jul 17, 8:23 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Jul 16, 7:43 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
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> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > On Jul 17, 5:36 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jul 15, 11:16 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
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> > > > rbwinn wrote:
> > > > > On Jul 14, 11:50 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> > > > >> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) wrote:
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> > > > >>> On Jul 14, 10:51 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>> On Jul 13, 7:13 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> > > > >>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > > > >>>>> On Jul 14, 10:39 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>> On Jul 13, 3:26 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 11:59 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 12:01�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> "Linda Fox" <linda...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>news:8vih74pvkgdkcmula0art55aogmd3pvne1@4ax.com...
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:20:29 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> A two year old is learning to lie or tell the truth. �If a two year
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> old sees its parents lie all the time, then the two year old is going
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to do the same thing.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Ho-kayyyy - tell us please, because we'd love to know, how a
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> two-year-old can tell its parents are lying when it does not know the
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> truth itself. Unless it's by watching the nose grow longer and longer.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Linda ff
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> This man obviously has no children.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> He has absolutely no idea what a two year old can or can't do.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Look, Bobby, he's two.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> He has no fucking clue what an atheist or a theist is.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> He's under my feet right now, pushing toy cars around the floor and
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> shouting, "Beep Beep"
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> He doesn't even know what a lie is, so how can you expect him to recognize
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> one?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> He does not even care.  All he is doing is what he sees you doing.  If
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> he finds lying to be more effective in getting what he wants, he is
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> going to lie.
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Well lets hope he nenver gets involved in religion then, so he wont need to.
> > > > >>>>>>>> How are you going to shield him from the Lorentz equations?  If he
> > > > >>>>>>>> goes to school there are books everywhere explaining the miracle of
> > > > >>>>>>>> length contraction.
> > > > >>>>>>> What miracle?
> > > > >>>>>>> If he is smart enough, he wont need to have it explained, he will work
> > > > >>>>>>> it out for himself: if he isn't smart enough, he will simply ignore it
> > > > >>>>>>> as irrelevant to his life.
> > > > >>>>>>> What he will never get, is someone telling him its the Truth, and if he
> > > > >>>>>>> doesn't believe it, he will go to hell for eternity.
> > > > >>>>>> Scientists say that the Lorentz equations show that an object in
> > > > >>>>>> motion contracts in length relative to a frame of reference at rest
> > > > >>>>>> until at the speed of light, the object has a length of zero.  So you
> > > > >>>>>> are bringing up your son in a religion called atheism that has one
> > > > >>>>>> miracle.
> > > > >>>>>> Whether it is many miracles or only one, a miracle is a miracle.
> > > > >>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> > > > >>>>> What makes you think Lorentz equations are part of atheism?
> > > > >>>>> Is it the same delusion that has you repeatedly posting garbage into
> > > > >>>>> alt.atheism?
> > > > >>>> Most scientists of today are atheists.  I was discussing the Lorentz
> > > > >>>> equations with scientists in sci.physics.relativity when you atheists
> > > > >>>> butted into the conversation in that newsgroup.
> > > > >>>> Robert B. Winn
> > > > >>> Most scientists today are atheists, yes.  But it's like saying most
> > > > >>> people with blonde hair have blue eyes.  The two things aren't
> > > > >>> actually related.
> > > > >>> And you keep lying about how you started this.  One fruitcake who
> > > > >>> claims to be both a scientist and a christian (but bizarely doesn't
> > > > >>> understand rainbows) cross-posted originally and you waded in with
> > > > >>> your lies and confusion into a topic that was already about proving
> > > > >>> this god thing.  And proceeded to lie about everyone.
> > > > >>> And now you keep using this myth you've invented about atheists
> > > > >>> posting into YOUR conversation about physics.
> > > > >> I think the two could be related. Not saying they are, I think that it's
> > > > >> likely though. Just my opinion.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > >> - Show quoted text -
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> > > > > I think they are related also.  Scientists and atheists have a
> > > > > religion that believes in one miracle, length contraction.
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> > > > liar.
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> > > Well, OK, Natural, show how the length contraction is not a miracle.
> > > Robert B. Winn
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> > Define "miracle"
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> > Al- Hide quoted text -
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> Miracles are manifestations of higher laws.
> Robert B. Winn

What higher laws?
We are all human and we are talking about laws that govern our earth
system.
Your god's law is covering other gods which does not apply to human.
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From: hhyapster@gmail.com
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:09:12 -0700 (PDT)
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