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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: hhyapster
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 03:49
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On Jul 18, 8:49 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Jul 17, 5:45 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>
> > rbwinn wrote:
> > > On Jul 17, 5:31 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > >> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>> On Jul 16, 8:36 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>> On Jul 16, 1:04 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:21 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:43�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> > >>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:40 am, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2:54 pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your analysis, Peter. �I was merely expanding on a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement from an atheist to show where it was leading: �Atheists do
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not believe anything.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not true, we believe you're a fuckin' moron... We even have
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to take that as an article of faith. �The evidence isn't
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> compelling. �We do have evidence that he's a liar. �So he could be
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> acting incredibly stupid, or more likely be stupid, it's impossible to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> tell. �But the evidence for lies is overwhelming.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> So, we believe he's as stupid as dog shit. �But we have evidence, and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> thus no need of faith, that he's a liar.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I understand your point, but I believe we have overwhelming evidence of
> > >>>>>>>>>>> both. Bobby is a classic newsgroup troll who desparately craves
> > >>>>>>>>>>> attention. Lying is an excellent way to get attention, although it
> > >>>>>>>>>>> normally means suffering considerable ridicule and insult in the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> process.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> But I also believe he's rather unintelligent (as most newsgroup trolls
> > >>>>>>>>>>> tend to be). He has shown a remarkable inability to absorb and integrate
> > >>>>>>>>>>> new information presented to him. There's no indication he reads
> > >>>>>>>>>>> anything outside of the few newsgroups he spends countless hours posting
> > >>>>>>>>>>> in. And he has shown a breathtaking lack of self awareness and maturity,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> whether about his ridiculous physics kookiness or his puerile religious
> > >>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. Taken together these point to someone suffering from mental
> > >>>>>>>>>>> illness combined with a serious cognitive impairment, or as I prefer to
> > >>>>>>>>>>> think of it, he's a fuckin' moron...
> > >>>>>>>>>> OK, I'll agree it's a good summary.
> > >>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
> > >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> > >>>>>>>>> Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement,
> > >>>>>>>>> Al.  You are agreeing with someone who has a weak mind.
> > >>>>>>>> Being upset about a select set of simple sounds is strange to me.
> > >>>>>>>> Profanity is such a non-issue for grown-ups, I'm far more interested in
> > >>>>>>>> the ideas conveyed by the words. You're using the profanity to ignore
> > >>>>>>>> the point.- Hide quoted text -
> > >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> > >>>>>>> You do not have a point.  You are using various ideas as an excuse to
> > >>>>>>> use profanity.   It would be more honest to just leave out the ideas
> > >>>>>>> and have the profanity by itself.
> > >>>>>> What an odd idea. I don't believe profanity needs an excuse, it's simply
> > >>>>>> a language feature that can be leveraged just like any other.
> > >>>>>> The idea is still conveyed, often more forcefully. If it makes you
> > >>>>>> uncomfortable and lets you avoid the point being made, then I'd have
> > >>>>>> thought you'd have been grateful for the "out"!
> > >>>>>> How is being profane dishonest?
> > >>>>>> It's really quite normal. Even among the religious.- Hide quoted text -
> > >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> > >>>>> Well, not quite normal.  I get tired of atheists who can be totally
> > >>>>> unprofane except when they are talking to me.
> > >>>>> Take it somewhere else.
> > >>>> Would you like some cheese with that whine?
> > >>>> If you don't like how atheists are talking to you, you can certainly
> > >>>> snip our newsgroup out of your headers.
> > >>> The behavior of atheists can be changed.  I just go ahead and change
> > >>> it.
> > >> Pride is a sin.
>
> > > Yes, that is correct.
>
> > So, you just sinned.
>
> In what way did I sin?
> Robert B. Winn

1. Having a mental problem is a sin.
2. Not staying the hospital for treatment is a sin.
3. Speaking and writing nonsense is a sin.
4. Posting lies or words without substantiated is a sin.
5. Lying and does not seek repent is a sin.
6. Being scolded and does not admit fault is a sin.
7. Cannot see the falsehood of bible is a sin.
8. Believe in Adam/Eve is a sin.
9. Rely upon god for the existence of human is a sin.
10. Putting words into your god is a sin.
11. ..................................................>1000
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From: hhyapster@gmail.com
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:49:33 -0700 (PDT)
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