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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: Smiler
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:59
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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message 
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On Jul 15, 12:16?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> "Antares 531" <gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net> wrote in message
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> news:72in74drr47ktr9l98raqph18ep0s1h4cp@4ax.com...
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> > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:25:09 -0400, Brian E. Clark
> > <re...@newsgroup.only.please> wrote:
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> >>In article <4d2a74pf351she9f40vri1ku32c7s40a9j@
> >>4ax.com>, Antares 531 said...
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> >>> Fulfillment of prophecies is the most convincing "evidence" for the
> >>> reliability of the Bible,
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> >>Most convincing of all are those prophecies written
> >>after the events they predict.
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> > Bryan, I see your point, but I maintain that there are many Biblical
> > prophecies that were written LONG before they were fulfilled, and the
> > history/dating can not have been manipulated. Even if the dating of,
> > say the prophecies of Daniel can be argued a bit, it can't be
> > stretched to a date later than the time of Jesus's life. If you
> > haven't already done so, please visit this site and check some of
> > these items out.
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> >http://www.reasons.org/resources/apologetics/prophecy.shtml
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> > Gordon
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> I read it.
> Am I missing something?
> What exactly is impressive about Daniel's prophecy?
>
> --
> Steve O

You are missing comprehension.  The head of gold is the Nebuchadnezzar
and the Babylonians,
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So you claim. Got any evidence for that assertion?
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 then there are the Persians,
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So you claim. Got any evidence for that assertion?
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then the Greeks,
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So you claim. Got any evidence for that assertion?
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then the Romans, etc.,
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So you claim. Got any evidence for that assertion?
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till you get to the iron mixed with miry clay,
which signify the kingdoms of modern Europe.
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So you claim. Got any evidence for that assertion?
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Most people are capable
of understanding the prophecy,
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Translation:
Most 'believers' will read between the line to "see" what isn't there in 
order to prop up their beliefs.
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but probably no atheist would be able
to do it.
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Translation: No atheist would be that gullible.
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The prophecy was given in 600 B.C.
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How do you know this? Where you there?
Were there any independent witnesses?

Age does not imply truth.

Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279 
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