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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: BuddyThunder
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:11
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 16, 12:07 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 14, 11:50 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:51 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 13, 7:13 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:39 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 3:26 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 11:59 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 12:01�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Linda Fox" <linda...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:8vih74pvkgdkcmula0art55aogmd3pvne1@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:20:29 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A two year old is learning to lie or tell the truth. �If a two year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old sees its parents lie all the time, then the two year old is going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do the same thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ho-kayyyy - tell us please, because we'd love to know, how a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two-year-old can tell its parents are lying when it does not know the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> truth itself. Unless it's by watching the nose grow longer and longer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linda ff
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This man obviously has no children.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has absolutely no idea what a two year old can or can't do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, Bobby, he's two.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has no fucking clue what an atheist or a theist is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He's under my feet right now, pushing toy cars around the floor and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shouting, "Beep Beep"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He doesn't even know what a lie is, so how can you expect him to recognize
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>>>>>>>> He does not even care.  All he is doing is what he sees you doing.  If
>>>>>>>>>>>> he finds lying to be more effective in getting what he wants, he is
>>>>>>>>>>>> going to lie.
>>>>>>>>>>> Well lets hope he nenver gets involved in religion then, so he wont need to.
>>>>>>>>>> How are you going to shield him from the Lorentz equations?  If he
>>>>>>>>>> goes to school there are books everywhere explaining the miracle of
>>>>>>>>>> length contraction.
>>>>>>>>> What miracle?
>>>>>>>>> If he is smart enough, he wont need to have it explained, he will work
>>>>>>>>> it out for himself: if he isn't smart enough, he will simply ignore it
>>>>>>>>> as irrelevant to his life.
>>>>>>>>> What he will never get, is someone telling him its the Truth, and if he
>>>>>>>>> doesn't believe it, he will go to hell for eternity.
>>>>>>>> Scientists say that the Lorentz equations show that an object in
>>>>>>>> motion contracts in length relative to a frame of reference at rest
>>>>>>>> until at the speed of light, the object has a length of zero.  So you
>>>>>>>> are bringing up your son in a religion called atheism that has one
>>>>>>>> miracle.
>>>>>>>> Whether it is many miracles or only one, a miracle is a miracle.
>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>> What makes you think Lorentz equations are part of atheism?
>>>>>>> Is it the same delusion that has you repeatedly posting garbage into
>>>>>>> alt.atheism?
>>>>>> Most scientists of today are atheists.  I was discussing the Lorentz
>>>>>> equations with scientists in sci.physics.relativity when you atheists
>>>>>> butted into the conversation in that newsgroup.
>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>> Most scientists today are atheists, yes.  But it's like saying most
>>>>> people with blonde hair have blue eyes.  The two things aren't
>>>>> actually related.
>>>>> And you keep lying about how you started this.  One fruitcake who
>>>>> claims to be both a scientist and a christian (but bizarely doesn't
>>>>> understand rainbows) cross-posted originally and you waded in with
>>>>> your lies and confusion into a topic that was already about proving
>>>>> this god thing.  And proceeded to lie about everyone.
>>>>> And now you keep using this myth you've invented about atheists
>>>>> posting into YOUR conversation about physics.
>>>> I think the two could be related. Not saying they are, I think that it's
>>>> likely though. Just my opinion.- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> I think they are related also.  Scientists and atheists have a
>>> religion that believes in one miracle, length contraction.
>> Aw, you go right on believing that. :-)- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> 
> Well, thank you for your permission.  Do you speak for all atheists or
> just for yourself?

Why would I speak for all atheists? What an odd idea.
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