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Article #12704Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:43
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:43
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On Jul 17, 5:31 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 16, 8:36 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 16, 1:04 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Jul 15, 1:21 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:43�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:40 am, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2:54 pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your analysis, Peter. �I was merely expanding on a > >>>>>>>>>>>> statement from an atheist to show where it was leading: �Atheists do > >>>>>>>>>>>> not believe anything. > >>>>>>>>>>> That's not true, we believe you're a fuckin' moron... We even have > >>>>>>>>>>> evidence! > >>>>>>>>>> I'm going to take that as an article of faith. �The evidence isn't > >>>>>>>>>> compelling. �We do have evidence that he's a liar. �So he could be > >>>>>>>>>> acting incredibly stupid, or more likely be stupid, it's impossible to > >>>>>>>>>> tell. �But the evidence for lies is overwhelming. > >>>>>>>>>> So, we believe he's as stupid as dog shit. �But we have evidence, and > >>>>>>>>>> thus no need of faith, that he's a liar. > >>>>>>>>> I understand your point, but I believe we have overwhelming evidence of > >>>>>>>>> both. Bobby is a classic newsgroup troll who desparately craves > >>>>>>>>> attention. Lying is an excellent way to get attention, although it > >>>>>>>>> normally means suffering considerable ridicule and insult in the > >>>>>>>>> process. > >>>>>>>>> But I also believe he's rather unintelligent (as most newsgroup trolls > >>>>>>>>> tend to be). He has shown a remarkable inability to absorb and integrate > >>>>>>>>> new information presented to him. There's no indication he reads > >>>>>>>>> anything outside of the few newsgroups he spends countless hours posting > >>>>>>>>> in. And he has shown a breathtaking lack of self awareness and maturity, > >>>>>>>>> whether about his ridiculous physics kookiness or his puerile religious > >>>>>>>>> nonsense. Taken together these point to someone suffering from mental > >>>>>>>>> illness combined with a serious cognitive impairment, or as I prefer to > >>>>>>>>> think of it, he's a fuckin' moron... > >>>>>>>> OK, I'll agree it's a good summary. > >>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>> Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement, > >>>>>>> Al. You are agreeing with someone who has a weak mind. > >>>>>> Being upset about a select set of simple sounds is strange to me. > >>>>>> Profanity is such a non-issue for grown-ups, I'm far more interested in > >>>>>> the ideas conveyed by the words. You're using the profanity to ignore > >>>>>> the point.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>> You do not have a point. You are using various ideas as an excuse to > >>>>> use profanity. It would be more honest to just leave out the ideas > >>>>> and have the profanity by itself. > >>>> What an odd idea. I don't believe profanity needs an excuse, it's simply > >>>> a language feature that can be leveraged just like any other. > >>>> The idea is still conveyed, often more forcefully. If it makes you > >>>> uncomfortable and lets you avoid the point being made, then I'd have > >>>> thought you'd have been grateful for the "out"! > >>>> How is being profane dishonest? > >>>> It's really quite normal. Even among the religious.- Hide quoted text - > >>>> - Show quoted text - > >>> Well, not quite normal. I get tired of atheists who can be totally > >>> unprofane except when they are talking to me. > >>> Take it somewhere else. > >> Would you like some cheese with that whine? > > >> If you don't like how atheists are talking to you, you can certainly > >> snip our newsgroup out of your headers. > > The behavior of atheists can be changed. I just go ahead and change > > it. > > Pride is a sin. > Yes, that is correct. Robert B. Winn
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