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Article #12705Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:45
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:45
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On Jul 17, 5:32 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 16, 8:55 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 16, 6:06 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Jul 15, 5:24 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:27 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 5:12�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>news:44f19f98-4d96-4419-a87a-d6bdbd73f31b@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry Potter has > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in Harry > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Potter. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the fact > >>>>>>>>>>>> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we have > >>>>>>>>>>>> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction. > >>>>>>>>>>>> By your reasoning at least. > >>>>>>>>>>> Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is. > >>>>>>>>>>> Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean. > >>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>> Here is an example of rbwinn's logic. > >>>>>>>>>> Sheep are mentioned in the bible > >>>>>>>>>> Sheep exist today > >>>>>>>>>> The bible is accurate and there is a God > >>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>> Steve O > >>>>>>>>> Well, no, Steve O. Here is an example. Atheists were claiming that > >>>>>>>>> nothing existed on earth today that could prove anything in the > >>>>>>>>> Bible. So I said, What about Hezekiah's tunnel? These atheists had > >>>>>>>>> never heard of Hezekiah's tunnel. So after they looked it up, they > >>>>>>>>> said, The fact that a tunnel exists no more proves the Bible to be > >>>>>>>>> true than Harry Potter leaving from the train station in London to go > >>>>>>>>> to wizard's school. > >>>>>>>> The original assertion remains in force. Hezekiah's Tunnel does not > >>>>>>>> prove anything. > >>>>>>>>> I really believe that it certainly does prove certain verses in the > >>>>>>>>> Old Testament to be true which describe the digging of Hezekiah's > >>>>>>>>> tunnel. Otherwise, atheists need to explain why there is a tunnel > >>>>>>>>> exactly where the Bible in three books of the Old Testament says a > >>>>>>>>> tunnel was dug as a conduit for water. > >>>>>>>> For the same reason that King's Cross Station exists. > >>>>>>>> Wow, you REALLY aren't getting the analogy, are you? > >>>>>>> There is nothing in the Book of 2 Chronicles about the construction of > >>>>>>> King's Cross Station. > >>>>>> Wow, you REALLY aren't getting the analogy, are you? > >>>>>> -- > >>>>> Well, if you can provide a description of the construction of Kings > >>>>> Cross station from the time it was built, maybe we could compare it to > >>>>> the Biblical account of the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel. > >>>> ....I see. So, since the Harry Potter books do not detail the > >>>> construction of King's Cross Station, it's not a correct analogy? > >>>> Okay, fine. In one of the Harry Potter books, the head of the Ministry > >>>> of Magic visits the new Prime Minister of England and informs him of the > >>>> fight against the Dark Lord. > >>>> Since this Harry Potter book describes the Prime Minister of England at > >>>> the time that he got into office and, since it coincided with Tony Blair > >>>> getting into office, that means that Harry Potter is true? > >>>> -- > >>>> ****************************************************** > >>>> * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * > >>> Well, if you want to believe in Harry Potter, I am sure you will find > >>> a way to do it. > >> No, see, that's what you're NOT getting. I don't believe in Harry > >> Potter. Harry Potter is fantasy. It's not real. And the events > >> therein have just as much evidence as the Bible has. > > >> That is: None. > > If atheists think something is fantasy, why is fantasy all they want > > to discuss? > > You're the one that brought fantasy into the discussion. > > -- Well, no, that is incorrect. I was discussing the theory of relativity and Hezekiah's tunnel. Atheists always try to change the subject to Harry Potter. Robert B. Winn
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