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Article #12722Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: BuddyThunder
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:53
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:53
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 16, 12:48 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 15, 5:24 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 14, 8:27 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 14, 5:12�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:44f19f98-4d96-4419-a87a-d6bdbd73f31b@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>>>> Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry Potter has >>>>>>>>>>> to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in Harry >>>>>>>>>>> Potter. >>>>>>>>>> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the fact >>>>>>>>>> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we have >>>>>>>>>> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction. >>>>>>>>>> By your reasoning at least. >>>>>>>>> Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is. >>>>>>>>> Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean. >>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>> Here is an example of rbwinn's logic. >>>>>>>> Sheep are mentioned in the bible >>>>>>>> Sheep exist today >>>>>>>> The bible is accurate and there is a God >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Steve O >>>>>>> Well, no, Steve O. Here is an example. Atheists were claiming that >>>>>>> nothing existed on earth today that could prove anything in the >>>>>>> Bible. So I said, What about Hezekiah's tunnel? These atheists had >>>>>>> never heard of Hezekiah's tunnel. So after they looked it up, they >>>>>>> said, The fact that a tunnel exists no more proves the Bible to be >>>>>>> true than Harry Potter leaving from the train station in London to go >>>>>>> to wizard's school. >>>>>> The original assertion remains in force. Hezekiah's Tunnel does not >>>>>> prove anything. >>>>>>> I really believe that it certainly does prove certain verses in the >>>>>>> Old Testament to be true which describe the digging of Hezekiah's >>>>>>> tunnel. Otherwise, atheists need to explain why there is a tunnel >>>>>>> exactly where the Bible in three books of the Old Testament says a >>>>>>> tunnel was dug as a conduit for water. >>>>>> For the same reason that King's Cross Station exists. >>>>>> Wow, you REALLY aren't getting the analogy, are you? >>>>> There is nothing in the Book of 2 Chronicles about the construction of >>>>> King's Cross Station. >>>> Wow, you REALLY aren't getting the analogy, are you? >>>> -- >>> Well, if you can provide a description of the construction of Kings >>> Cross station from the time it was built, maybe we could compare it to >>> the Biblical account of the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel. >> Totally irrelevant to the point. Just to remind you: people make stuff >> up about real places then write it down. Like in Harry Potter, like in >> the Bible. Why believe it just because it includes a real place?- Hide > > I don't believe it because it includes a real place. I believe it > because it is true. Why have you been unable to demonstrate it's truth to us? We've been asking for confirming evidence, where is it?
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