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On Jul 17, 5:36 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Jul 15, 11:16 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>
> > rbwinn wrote:
> > > On Jul 14, 11:50 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> > >> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) wrote:
>
> > >>> On Jul 14, 10:51 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> > >>>> On Jul 13, 7:13 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> > >>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > >>>>> On Jul 14, 10:39 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Jul 13, 3:26 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> > >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 11:59 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 12:01�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> "Linda Fox" <linda...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> > >>>>>>>>>>>news:8vih74pvkgdkcmula0art55aogmd3pvne1@4ax.com...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:20:29 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> A two year old is learning to lie or tell the truth. �If a two year
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> old sees its parents lie all the time, then the two year old is going
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to do the same thing.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Ho-kayyyy - tell us please, because we'd love to know, how a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> two-year-old can tell its parents are lying when it does not know the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> truth itself. Unless it's by watching the nose grow longer and longer.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Linda ff
> > >>>>>>>>>>> This man obviously has no children.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> He has absolutely no idea what a two year old can or can't do.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Look, Bobby, he's two.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> He has no fucking clue what an atheist or a theist is.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> He's under my feet right now, pushing toy cars around the floor and
> > >>>>>>>>>>> shouting, "Beep Beep"
> > >>>>>>>>>>> He doesn't even know what a lie is, so how can you expect him to recognize
> > >>>>>>>>>>> one?
> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
> > >>>>>>>>>> He does not even care.  All he is doing is what he sees you doing.  If
> > >>>>>>>>>> he finds lying to be more effective in getting what he wants, he is
> > >>>>>>>>>> going to lie.
> > >>>>>>>>> Well lets hope he nenver gets involved in religion then, so he wont need to.
> > >>>>>>>> How are you going to shield him from the Lorentz equations?  If he
> > >>>>>>>> goes to school there are books everywhere explaining the miracle of
> > >>>>>>>> length contraction.
> > >>>>>>> What miracle?
> > >>>>>>> If he is smart enough, he wont need to have it explained, he will work
> > >>>>>>> it out for himself: if he isn't smart enough, he will simply ignore it
> > >>>>>>> as irrelevant to his life.
> > >>>>>>> What he will never get, is someone telling him its the Truth, and if he
> > >>>>>>> doesn't believe it, he will go to hell for eternity.
> > >>>>>> Scientists say that the Lorentz equations show that an object in
> > >>>>>> motion contracts in length relative to a frame of reference at rest
> > >>>>>> until at the speed of light, the object has a length of zero.  So you
> > >>>>>> are bringing up your son in a religion called atheism that has one
> > >>>>>> miracle.
> > >>>>>> Whether it is many miracles or only one, a miracle is a miracle.
> > >>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> > >>>>> What makes you think Lorentz equations are part of atheism?
> > >>>>> Is it the same delusion that has you repeatedly posting garbage into
> > >>>>> alt.atheism?
> > >>>> Most scientists of today are atheists.  I was discussing the Lorentz
> > >>>> equations with scientists in sci.physics.relativity when you atheists
> > >>>> butted into the conversation in that newsgroup.
> > >>>> Robert B. Winn
> > >>> Most scientists today are atheists, yes.  But it's like saying most
> > >>> people with blonde hair have blue eyes.  The two things aren't
> > >>> actually related.
> > >>> And you keep lying about how you started this.  One fruitcake who
> > >>> claims to be both a scientist and a christian (but bizarely doesn't
> > >>> understand rainbows) cross-posted originally and you waded in with
> > >>> your lies and confusion into a topic that was already about proving
> > >>> this god thing.  And proceeded to lie about everyone.
> > >>> And now you keep using this myth you've invented about atheists
> > >>> posting into YOUR conversation about physics.
> > >> I think the two could be related. Not saying they are, I think that it's
> > >> likely though. Just my opinion.- Hide quoted text -
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> > >> - Show quoted text -
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> > > I think they are related also.  Scientists and atheists have a
> > > religion that believes in one miracle, length contraction.
>
> > liar.
>
> Well, OK, Natural, show how the length contraction is not a miracle.
> Robert B. Winn

Define "miracle"

Al