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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:15
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On Jul 16, 12:48 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 15, 5:24 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 14, 8:27 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 14, 5:12�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>news:44f19f98-4d96-4419-a87a-d6bdbd73f31b@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>>>>> Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry Potter has
> >>>>>>>>> to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in Harry
> >>>>>>>>> Potter.
> >>>>>>>> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the fact
> >>>>>>>> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we have
> >>>>>>>> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction.
> >>>>>>>> By your reasoning at least.
> >>>>>>> Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is.
> >>>>>>> Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean.
> >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>> Here is an example of rbwinn's logic.
> >>>>>> Sheep are mentioned in the bible
> >>>>>> Sheep exist today
> >>>>>> The bible is accurate and there is a God
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Steve O
> >>>>> Well, no, Steve O.  Here is an example.  Atheists were claiming that
> >>>>> nothing existed on earth today that could prove anything in the
> >>>>> Bible.  So I said, What about Hezekiah's tunnel?  These atheists had
> >>>>> never heard of Hezekiah's tunnel.  So after they looked it up, they
> >>>>> said, The fact that a tunnel exists no more proves the Bible to be
> >>>>> true than Harry Potter leaving from the train station in London to go
> >>>>> to wizard's school.
> >>>> The original assertion remains in force.  Hezekiah's Tunnel does not
> >>>> prove anything.
> >>>>>    I really believe that it certainly does prove certain verses in the
> >>>>> Old Testament to be true which describe the digging of Hezekiah's
> >>>>> tunnel.  Otherwise, atheists need to explain why there is a tunnel
> >>>>> exactly where the Bible in three books of the Old Testament says a
> >>>>> tunnel was dug as a conduit for water.
> >>>> For the same reason that King's Cross Station exists.
> >>>> Wow, you REALLY aren't getting the analogy, are you?
> >>> There is nothing in the Book of 2 Chronicles about the construction of
> >>> King's Cross Station.
> >> Wow, you REALLY aren't getting the analogy, are you?
>
> >> --
> > Well, if you can provide a description of the construction of Kings
> > Cross station from the time it was built, maybe we could compare it to
> > the Biblical account of the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel.
>
> Totally irrelevant to the point. Just to remind you: people make stuff
> up about real places then write it down. Like in Harry Potter, like in
> the Bible. Why believe it just because it includes a real place?- Hide

I don't believe it because it includes a real place.  I believe it
because it is true.
Robert B,. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:15:49 -0700 (PDT)
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