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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#12725
From: rbwinn
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:21
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On Jul 16, 1:04 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 15, 1:21 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 14, 8:43�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>> On Jul 15, 1:40 am, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
> >>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Jul 14, 2:54 pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
> >>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Thank you for your analysis, Peter. �I was merely expanding on a
> >>>>>>>> statement from an atheist to show where it was leading: �Atheists do
> >>>>>>>> not believe anything.
> >>>>>>> That's not true, we believe you're a fuckin' moron... We even have
> >>>>>>> evidence!
> >>>>>> I'm going to take that as an article of faith. �The evidence isn't
> >>>>>> compelling. �We do have evidence that he's a liar. �So he could be
> >>>>>> acting incredibly stupid, or more likely be stupid, it's impossible to
> >>>>>> tell. �But the evidence for lies is overwhelming.
> >>>>>> So, we believe he's as stupid as dog shit. �But we have evidence, and
> >>>>>> thus no need of faith, that he's a liar.
> >>>>> I understand your point, but I believe we have overwhelming evidence of
> >>>>> both. Bobby is a classic newsgroup troll who desparately craves
> >>>>> attention. Lying is an excellent way to get attention, although it
> >>>>> normally means suffering considerable ridicule and insult in the
> >>>>> process.
> >>>>> But I also believe he's rather unintelligent (as most newsgroup trolls
> >>>>> tend to be). He has shown a remarkable inability to absorb and integrate
> >>>>> new information presented to him. There's no indication he reads
> >>>>> anything outside of the few newsgroups he spends countless hours posting
> >>>>> in. And he has shown a breathtaking lack of self awareness and maturity,
> >>>>> whether about his ridiculous physics kookiness or his puerile religious
> >>>>> nonsense. Taken together these point to someone suffering from mental
> >>>>> illness combined with a serious cognitive impairment, or as I prefer to
> >>>>> think of it, he's a fuckin' moron...
> >>>> OK, I'll agree it's a good summary.
> >>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
> >>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>> Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement,
> >>> Al.  You are agreeing with someone who has a weak mind.
> >> Being upset about a select set of simple sounds is strange to me.
> >> Profanity is such a non-issue for grown-ups, I'm far more interested in
> >> the ideas conveyed by the words. You're using the profanity to ignore
> >> the point.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > You do not have a point.  You are using various ideas as an excuse to
> > use profanity.   It would be more honest to just leave out the ideas
> > and have the profanity by itself.
>
> What an odd idea. I don't believe profanity needs an excuse, it's simply
> a language feature that can be leveraged just like any other.
>
> The idea is still conveyed, often more forcefully. If it makes you
> uncomfortable and lets you avoid the point being made, then I'd have
> thought you'd have been grateful for the "out"!
>
> How is being profane dishonest?
>
> It's really quite normal. Even among the religious.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Well, not quite normal.  I get tired of atheists who can be totally
unprofane except when they are talking to me.
Take it somewhere else.
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:21:12 -0700 (PDT)
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