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Article #12738Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:52
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:52
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On Jul 16, 6:06 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 15, 5:24 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 14, 8:27 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Jul 14, 5:12�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>news:44f19f98-4d96-4419-a87a-d6bdbd73f31b@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>>>> Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry Potter has > >>>>>>>>> to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in Harry > >>>>>>>>> Potter. > >>>>>>>> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the fact > >>>>>>>> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we have > >>>>>>>> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction. > >>>>>>>> By your reasoning at least. > >>>>>>> Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is. > >>>>>>> Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean. > >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>> Here is an example of rbwinn's logic. > >>>>>> Sheep are mentioned in the bible > >>>>>> Sheep exist today > >>>>>> The bible is accurate and there is a God > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Steve O > >>>>> Well, no, Steve O. Here is an example. Atheists were claiming that > >>>>> nothing existed on earth today that could prove anything in the > >>>>> Bible. So I said, What about Hezekiah's tunnel? These atheists had > >>>>> never heard of Hezekiah's tunnel. So after they looked it up, they > >>>>> said, The fact that a tunnel exists no more proves the Bible to be > >>>>> true than Harry Potter leaving from the train station in London to go > >>>>> to wizard's school. > >>>> The original assertion remains in force. Hezekiah's Tunnel does not > >>>> prove anything. > >>>>> I really believe that it certainly does prove certain verses in the > >>>>> Old Testament to be true which describe the digging of Hezekiah's > >>>>> tunnel. Otherwise, atheists need to explain why there is a tunnel > >>>>> exactly where the Bible in three books of the Old Testament says a > >>>>> tunnel was dug as a conduit for water. > >>>> For the same reason that King's Cross Station exists. > >>>> Wow, you REALLY aren't getting the analogy, are you? > >>> There is nothing in the Book of 2 Chronicles about the construction of > >>> King's Cross Station. > >> Wow, you REALLY aren't getting the analogy, are you? > > >> -- > > Well, if you can provide a description of the construction of Kings > > Cross station from the time it was built, maybe we could compare it to > > the Biblical account of the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel. > > ....I see. So, since the Harry Potter books do not detail the > construction of King's Cross Station, it's not a correct analogy? > > Okay, fine. In one of the Harry Potter books, the head of the Ministry > of Magic visits the new Prime Minister of England and informs him of the > fight against the Dark Lord. > > Since this Harry Potter book describes the Prime Minister of England at > the time that he got into office and, since it coincided with Tony Blair > getting into office, that means that Harry Potter is true? > > -- > ****************************************************** > * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * Well, if you want to believe in Harry Potter, I am sure you will find a way to do it. Robert B. Winn
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