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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: DanielSan
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:55
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 16, 6:06 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 15, 5:24 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:27 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 5:12�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:44f19f98-4d96-4419-a87a-d6bdbd73f31b@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry Potter has
>>>>>>>>>>> to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in Harry
>>>>>>>>>>> Potter.
>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the fact
>>>>>>>>>> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we have
>>>>>>>>>> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction.
>>>>>>>>>> By your reasoning at least.
>>>>>>>>> Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is.
>>>>>>>>> Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean.
>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>> Here is an example of rbwinn's logic.
>>>>>>>> Sheep are mentioned in the bible
>>>>>>>> Sheep exist today
>>>>>>>> The bible is accurate and there is a God
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>>> Well, no, Steve O.  Here is an example.  Atheists were claiming that
>>>>>>> nothing existed on earth today that could prove anything in the
>>>>>>> Bible.  So I said, What about Hezekiah's tunnel?  These atheists had
>>>>>>> never heard of Hezekiah's tunnel.  So after they looked it up, they
>>>>>>> said, The fact that a tunnel exists no more proves the Bible to be
>>>>>>> true than Harry Potter leaving from the train station in London to go
>>>>>>> to wizard's school.
>>>>>> The original assertion remains in force.  Hezekiah's Tunnel does not
>>>>>> prove anything.
>>>>>>>    I really believe that it certainly does prove certain verses in the
>>>>>>> Old Testament to be true which describe the digging of Hezekiah's
>>>>>>> tunnel.  Otherwise, atheists need to explain why there is a tunnel
>>>>>>> exactly where the Bible in three books of the Old Testament says a
>>>>>>> tunnel was dug as a conduit for water.
>>>>>> For the same reason that King's Cross Station exists.
>>>>>> Wow, you REALLY aren't getting the analogy, are you?
>>>>> There is nothing in the Book of 2 Chronicles about the construction of
>>>>> King's Cross Station.
>>>> Wow, you REALLY aren't getting the analogy, are you?
>>>> --
>>> Well, if you can provide a description of the construction of Kings
>>> Cross station from the time it was built, maybe we could compare it to
>>> the Biblical account of the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel.
>> ....I see.  So, since the Harry Potter books do not detail the
>> construction of King's Cross Station, it's not a correct analogy?
>>
>> Okay, fine.  In one of the Harry Potter books, the head of the Ministry
>> of Magic visits the new Prime Minister of England and informs him of the
>> fight against the Dark Lord.
>>
>> Since this Harry Potter book describes the Prime Minister of England at
>> the time that he got into office and, since it coincided with Tony Blair
>> getting into office, that means that Harry Potter is true?
>>
>> --
>> ******************************************************
>> *          DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226            *
> 
> Well, if you want to believe in Harry Potter, I am sure you will find
> a way to do it.

No, see, that's what you're NOT getting.  I don't believe in Harry 
Potter.  Harry Potter is fantasy.  It's not real.   And the events 
therein have just as much evidence as the Bible has.

That is:  None.

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*          DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226            *
*----------------------------------------------------*
* "I distrust those people who know so well what God *
*  wants them to do because I notice it always       *
*  coincides with their own desires."                *
*                                 --Susan B. Anthony *
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