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On Jul 16, 6:07 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 15, 6:50 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 14, 11:57 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>> DanielSan wrote:
> >>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>> On Jul 14, 2:41 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 3:28 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 12:05 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 1:55 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Loan Arranger wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 3:52�am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fact that it could all be prophesied does not mean
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �that God
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approved of it. �It just meant it was going to take place.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean he was powerless to stop it? Wow! That must really
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have chafed.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ could have stopped his crucifixion any time he
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chose to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hey, guys - guys! Just kidding, honest, c'mon, let's get
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> these nails
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> out, shake hands, and ... uh, guys? Guys? HEY GUYS, CUT ME A
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BREAK HERE!"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> TLA
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The concept of god is necessary to put a himan face on the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> reflection of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the mystrious Universe in men's minds, so that when they gaze
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at it, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> teh only bits they recognize as faintly familiar , are their own
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> reflections, they don't get frightened to death.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Atheism is for those who have the courage to see it as it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> really is..
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Religion is just the kiddy bedtime story copout.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> So why is it then that Old Testament prophets were put to death,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> John
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the Baptist was beheaded, Jesus was crucified, his apostles
> >>>>>>>>>>>> suffered
> >>>>>>>>>>>> martyrs' deaths, religious reformers were burned at the stake, Jews
> >>>>>>>>>>>> were put in extermination camps, Communist regimes killed most
> >>>>>>>>>>>> clergy,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> etc.?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>   If religion is such a bedtime story, why do so many religious
> >>>>>>>>>>>> people
> >>>>>>>>>>>> get killed for their beliefs?
> >>>>>>>>>>> Probably because they are a bunch of hypocritical liars, like you
> >>>>>>>>>>> are.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Plenty of people die rather than face the truth.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, since they are all on the way to a Better Life, they
> >>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't
> >>>>>>>>>>> complain if someone helps them along the way, should they?
> >>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, as a devout Christian (allegedly: `It's hard to believe
> >>>>>>>>>>> anything you say) will death be something you avoid, or something
> >>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>> is simply going to be the best thing that has ever happened to you?
> >>>>>>>>>>> If teh latter, would you like a hand?
> >>>>>>>>>> Death is something that is going to happen.  With regard to the
> >>>>>>>>>> hereafter, what happens there is bound to be better than what
> >>>>>>>>>> happened
> >>>>>>>>>> to me in this life.
> >>>>>>>>> I wouldn't bet on it: If you cant hack this life, you dont have much
> >>>>>>>>> chance in hacking the hereafter. Perhaps the reason you cant hack this
> >>>>>>>>> life is you spent it clinging to something that didn't work,
> >>>>>>>>> because you
> >>>>>>>>> hadn't the courage to throw away your crutches, and get up and walk.
> >>>>>>>>> There's a bit about that in the bible as well. But you probably didn't
> >>>>>>>>> understand that either.
> >>>>>>>> What makes you think I cannot hack this life?
> >>>>>>> Your statement abut how hard you found it.
> >>>>>>> I think you are suffereing from the early stages of dementia.
> >>>>>>> You are foregetting what you said again.
> >>>>>> Well, you try getting out of a mental institution some time.   I think
> >>>>>> the reason I was able to do it was because I learned to talk to
> >>>>>> atheists.  Whenever I would talk to psychiatrists, I would talk about
> >>>>>> medical malpractice.
> >>>>> Talking to atheists is something you're doing very poorly at.
> >>>> I'd be happy if he could just talk to people, without making blanketing,
> >>>> bigoted statements about whole groups of people. I suppose he genuinely
> >>>>   believes all atheists and mental health practitioners to all be
> >>>> totally debased moral degenerates. Bad thinking.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>> I am doing very well at talking to atheists.  As far as I know, there
> >>> has never been a longer conversation than this one between atheists
> >>> and a Christian, two Christians, if you count Gordon.
> >> Sorry, but length of conversation does not equal quality of conversation.
>
> > Well, you atheists are free to end it any time.  Just take sci.physics
> > and sci.physics.relativity out of the header, and nobody in these
> > newsgroups will see your posts.
>
> No, I don't have a problem with any of these posts.
>
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> *          DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226            *
>
Well, OK, then I can assume you are not going to complain about my
posts?
Robert B. Winn