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Article #12766Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: BuddyThunder
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:55
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:55
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Alex W. wrote: > "BuddyThunder" <nospam@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message > news:487d9ce4@clear.net.nz... >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 14, 11:29 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 14, 8:01?am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> Only an atheist would want all choices made for >>>>>>> them. >>>>>> Now there was me thinking that that was the mark of a worshipper. It >>>>>> seems to me that atheists make their own choices, because they don't >>>>>> have decisions ready-dictated to them. >>>>> So you think it is a mistake to decide ahead of time not to commit >>>>> murder, not to steal, to attend church, not to commit adultery, etc. >>>> Why would you be so morally deficient so as to need to perform morning >>>> affirmations in order not to kill people? >>>> >>>> My moral decisions are made as the occasion demands it. Seems to work >>>> okay. >>> So are you saying that for each person you encounter, you make a >>> decision to kill or not to kill? >>> Robert B. Winn >> No, I'm saying exactly the opposite. I need not make that decision at all, >> because I'm not filled with murderous rage. >> >> As moral decisions need to be made, I make them according to my own >> values. > > Sort of yes, but not quite, IMO. > There is a level of decision-making which is sub-conscious much of the time. > You probably don't realise it at the time, but when you encounter someone, > there is a whole routine you go through, a checklist for friend/foe, > fight/flee, us/them, relative dominance. This does feed into any moral > decisions you make regarding that person, such as whether and how much > respect I accord the other person, or -- in a business setting -- how honest > I will be in my dealings with him. Absolutely, I accept all that, most of the time those unconsious decisions are not controversial. I was talking about those concious moments of weighing-up when you're kicking around some questionable course of action.
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