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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:23
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On Jul 15, 9:20 am, "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl>
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> On 14 jul, 05:42, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > On Jul 14, 1:12 am, "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl>
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> > > On 13 jul, 16:22, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Jul 13, 12:10 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
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> > > > > rbwinn wrote:
> > > > > > On Jul 12, 7:29�am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:21:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> > > > > >> wrote:
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> > > > > >>>>> You atheists seem to have a lot of trouble with the meanings of
> > > > > >>>>> words. ?There was another atheist who seemed to believe that adult and
> > > > > >>>>> adulterer meant the same thing.
> > > > > >>>>> Robert B. Winn
> > > > > >>>> ...which is an old joke that you obviously didn't get.
> > > > > >>> It is a very foolish mistake. �Although the two words look and sound
> > > > > >>> similar, they mean very different things.
> > > > > >>> Robert B. Winn
> > > > > >> I'd explain the meaning of "a play on words", but it would be like
> > > > > >> pouring water on a rock and expecting it to sink in...
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> > > > > > With atheists, it is not a play on words.  They really believe that
> > > > > > adulterers are the most mature adults.
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> > > > > Atheists don't believe anything.
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> > > > > More lies from the Prince of Lies.
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> > > > > Its amazing how much ore of an atheist I want to be, listening to you.
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> > > > Well, there you have it.  Atheists don't believe anything, they don't
> > > > do anything, and they don't think anything.  It does not sound very
> > > > exciting to me, but maybe it does to an atheist.
> > > > Robert B. Winn- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
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> > > > - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
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> > > Well. Atheist are not lying their butt off like you do.
> > > Most of them believe in natural explanations,
> > > most of them have a job,
> > > and many of them are intelligent enough not to make as silly a claim
> > > as to say someone else doesn't think anything.
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> > > Your statement would be truth though if it was made about dead people.
> > > But if all dead people are atheists, what would that mean for heaven
> > > and hell?
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> > > Think about it!
> > > I am sure you have enough brains to understand,
> > > I only doubt whether you will use them on this issue or perfer to keep
> > > making silly statements
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> > > Peter van Velzen
> > > July 2008
> > > Amstelveen
> > > The Netherlands
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> > That's where you are wrong, Peter.
> > You think rbwinn got brain? OK, has a brain but without cells...
> > But you do not know he has mental problem, which the scientists have
> > not come up with any cure yet?- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
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> > - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
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> I always assume that a person with whom I can have some kind of
> conversation, is more or less intelligent in the same way I am.
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> Though rbwinn sometimes posts like a moron, that does not nescesarily
> mean he is one. He sort of acknowledged he was actually mocking
> atheism, by pursuing the line "an atheist has no believe". And if that
> would indeed be true, than logic requires that the atheist does not
> think. For what is there to think about unless you believe something?
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> Anyway I always treat posters as if they can understand what I am
> saying,
> and I will keep doing do, however hard those posters are trying not
> to.
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> Love,
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> Peter van Velzen
> July 2008
> Amstelveen
> The Netherlands
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> PS In order to make this post I had to believe:
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> I exist
> You exist
> rbwinn exists
> My computer exists
> Google exists
> (my provider doesn't provide Newsgroup access)
> sci.physics,cam.mist,alt.sci.physics or alt.atheism exists
> English exists
> The english words mean what I think they mean
> Others can understand the English I produce.
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> Someone who doesn't believe all of this (except maybe for Google and
> rbwinn)
> cannot sensibly reply to your post.- Hide quoted text -
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Europeans are very existential.
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
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