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On Jul 14, 11:57 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> DanielSan wrote:
> > rbwinn wrote:
> >> On Jul 14, 2:41 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>> On Jul 13, 3:28 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>> On Jul 13, 12:05 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 1:55 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> The Loan Arranger wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 3:52�am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The fact that it could all be prophesied does not mean
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> �that God
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> approved of it. �It just meant it was going to take place.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> You mean he was powerless to stop it? Wow! That must really
> >>>>>>>>>>>> have chafed.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ could have stopped his crucifixion any time he
> >>>>>>>>>>> chose to
> >>>>>>>>>>> do it.
> >>>>>>>>>> "Hey, guys - guys! Just kidding, honest, c'mon, let's get
> >>>>>>>>>> these nails
> >>>>>>>>>> out, shake hands, and ... uh, guys? Guys? HEY GUYS, CUT ME A
> >>>>>>>>>> BREAK HERE!"
> >>>>>>>>>> TLA
> >>>>>>>>> The concept of god is necessary to put a himan face on the
> >>>>>>>>> reflection of
> >>>>>>>>> the mystrious Universe in men's minds, so that when they gaze
> >>>>>>>>> at it, and
> >>>>>>>>> teh only bits they recognize as faintly familiar , are their own
> >>>>>>>>> reflections, they don't get frightened to death.
> >>>>>>>>> Atheism is for those who have the courage to see it as it
> >>>>>>>>> really is..
> >>>>>>>>> Religion is just the kiddy bedtime story copout.
> >>>>>>>> So why is it then that Old Testament prophets were put to death,
> >>>>>>>> John
> >>>>>>>> the Baptist was beheaded, Jesus was crucified, his apostles
> >>>>>>>> suffered
> >>>>>>>> martyrs' deaths, religious reformers were burned at the stake, Jews
> >>>>>>>> were put in extermination camps, Communist regimes killed most
> >>>>>>>> clergy,
> >>>>>>>> etc.?
> >>>>>>>>   If religion is such a bedtime story, why do so many religious
> >>>>>>>> people
> >>>>>>>> get killed for their beliefs?
> >>>>>>> Probably because they are a bunch of hypocritical liars, like you
> >>>>>>> are.
> >>>>>>> Plenty of people die rather than face the truth.
> >>>>>>> Anyway, since they are all on the way to a Better Life, they
> >>>>>>> shouldn't
> >>>>>>> complain if someone helps them along the way, should they?
> >>>>>>> Tell me, as a devout Christian (allegedly: `It's hard to believe
> >>>>>>> anything you say) will death be something you avoid, or something
> >>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>> is simply going to be the best thing that has ever happened to you?
> >>>>>>> If teh latter, would you like a hand?
> >>>>>> Death is something that is going to happen.  With regard to the
> >>>>>> hereafter, what happens there is bound to be better than what
> >>>>>> happened
> >>>>>> to me in this life.
> >>>>> I wouldn't bet on it: If you cant hack this life, you dont have much
> >>>>> chance in hacking the hereafter. Perhaps the reason you cant hack this
> >>>>> life is you spent it clinging to something that didn't work,
> >>>>> because you
> >>>>> hadn't the courage to throw away your crutches, and get up and walk.
> >>>>> There's a bit about that in the bible as well. But you probably didn't
> >>>>> understand that either.
> >>>> What makes you think I cannot hack this life?
> >>> Your statement abut how hard you found it.
> >>> I think you are suffereing from the early stages of dementia.
>
> >>> You are foregetting what you said again.
>
> >> Well, you try getting out of a mental institution some time.   I think
> >> the reason I was able to do it was because I learned to talk to
> >> atheists.  Whenever I would talk to psychiatrists, I would talk about
> >> medical malpractice.
>
> > Talking to atheists is something you're doing very poorly at.
>
> I'd be happy if he could just talk to people, without making blanketing,
> bigoted statements about whole groups of people. I suppose he genuinely
>   believes all atheists and mental health practitioners to all be
> totally debased moral degenerates. Bad thinking.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I am doing very well at talking to atheists.  As far as I know, there
has never been a longer conversation than this one between atheists
and a Christian, two Christians, if you count Gordon.
Robert B. Winn