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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 14, 11:57 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> DanielSan wrote:
>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>> On Jul 14, 2:41 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 13, 3:28 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 12:05 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 1:55 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> The Loan Arranger wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 3:52�am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fact that it could all be prophesied does not mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �that God
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approved of it. �It just meant it was going to take place.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean he was powerless to stop it? Wow! That must really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have chafed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ could have stopped his crucifixion any time he
>>>>>>>>>>>>> chose to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hey, guys - guys! Just kidding, honest, c'mon, let's get
>>>>>>>>>>>> these nails
>>>>>>>>>>>> out, shake hands, and ... uh, guys? Guys? HEY GUYS, CUT ME A
>>>>>>>>>>>> BREAK HERE!"
>>>>>>>>>>>> TLA
>>>>>>>>>>> The concept of god is necessary to put a himan face on the
>>>>>>>>>>> reflection of
>>>>>>>>>>> the mystrious Universe in men's minds, so that when they gaze
>>>>>>>>>>> at it, and
>>>>>>>>>>> teh only bits they recognize as faintly familiar , are their own
>>>>>>>>>>> reflections, they don't get frightened to death.
>>>>>>>>>>> Atheism is for those who have the courage to see it as it
>>>>>>>>>>> really is..
>>>>>>>>>>> Religion is just the kiddy bedtime story copout.
>>>>>>>>>> So why is it then that Old Testament prophets were put to death,
>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>> the Baptist was beheaded, Jesus was crucified, his apostles
>>>>>>>>>> suffered
>>>>>>>>>> martyrs' deaths, religious reformers were burned at the stake, Jews
>>>>>>>>>> were put in extermination camps, Communist regimes killed most
>>>>>>>>>> clergy,
>>>>>>>>>> etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>   If religion is such a bedtime story, why do so many religious
>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>> get killed for their beliefs?
>>>>>>>>> Probably because they are a bunch of hypocritical liars, like you
>>>>>>>>> are.
>>>>>>>>> Plenty of people die rather than face the truth.
>>>>>>>>> Anyway, since they are all on the way to a Better Life, they
>>>>>>>>> shouldn't
>>>>>>>>> complain if someone helps them along the way, should they?
>>>>>>>>> Tell me, as a devout Christian (allegedly: `It's hard to believe
>>>>>>>>> anything you say) will death be something you avoid, or something
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> is simply going to be the best thing that has ever happened to you?
>>>>>>>>> If teh latter, would you like a hand?
>>>>>>>> Death is something that is going to happen.  With regard to the
>>>>>>>> hereafter, what happens there is bound to be better than what
>>>>>>>> happened
>>>>>>>> to me in this life.
>>>>>>> I wouldn't bet on it: If you cant hack this life, you dont have much
>>>>>>> chance in hacking the hereafter. Perhaps the reason you cant hack this
>>>>>>> life is you spent it clinging to something that didn't work,
>>>>>>> because you
>>>>>>> hadn't the courage to throw away your crutches, and get up and walk.
>>>>>>> There's a bit about that in the bible as well. But you probably didn't
>>>>>>> understand that either.
>>>>>> What makes you think I cannot hack this life?
>>>>> Your statement abut how hard you found it.
>>>>> I think you are suffereing from the early stages of dementia.
>>>>> You are foregetting what you said again.
>>>> Well, you try getting out of a mental institution some time.   I think
>>>> the reason I was able to do it was because I learned to talk to
>>>> atheists.  Whenever I would talk to psychiatrists, I would talk about
>>>> medical malpractice.
>>> Talking to atheists is something you're doing very poorly at.
>> I'd be happy if he could just talk to people, without making blanketing,
>> bigoted statements about whole groups of people. I suppose he genuinely
>>   believes all atheists and mental health practitioners to all be
>> totally debased moral degenerates. Bad thinking.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> 
> I am doing very well at talking to atheists.  As far as I know, there
> has never been a longer conversation than this one between atheists
> and a Christian, two Christians, if you count Gordon.

Sorry, but length of conversation does not equal quality of conversation.

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