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Article #1287Re: Converting the masses
From: Jim Carr
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:57
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:57
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In article <1992Jul21.141253.17366@jlc.mv.com> john@jlc.mv.com (John Leslie) writes: >In article <mcirvin.711673227@husc8> mcirvin@husc8.harvard.edu (Mcirvin) writes: >>dk@imager (Dave Knapp) writes: >> >>In fact, I think that a more important issue than the definition of >>mass is the use of four-vectors in introductory classes teaching SR, >>which I think should be encouraged, since it brings beauty and >>simplicity to something which otherwise looks like an algebraic junkheap >>built on a shifting foundation of paradoxes. Nice statement. The "algebraic junkheap" was how I viewed it when I first tried to work through SR back in high school. Of course, the following query tells you why intro classes do not use this particular formulation... > Could someone have mercy on those of us whose college physics is >twenty or more years in the past? What is "four-vectors"? A "four-vector" is a vector with 4 components, normally used in physics when one wants to treat space and time as the 4 components of a single vector space called "space-time" for short. It works just like regular geometry with "three-vectors" except the meaning of the distance between two points is altered in a significant way. What is nice about this approach (besides the fact that it is crucial to use it if you want to do general relativity) is that it makes it very clear that the Lorentz transforms are just a rotation in this 4-space, and nothing more. -- J. A. Carr | "The New Frontier of which I jac@gw.scri.fsu.edu | speak is not a set of promises Florida State University B-186 | -- it is a set of challenges." Supercomputer Computations Research Institute | John F. Kennedy (15 July 60)
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!gatech!mailer.cc.fsu.edu!sun13!ds8.scri.fsu.edu!jac From: jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr) Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: Converting the masses Keywords: four-vectors Message-ID: <9909@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> Date: 21 Jul 92 18:57:24 GMT References: <mcirvin.711489157@husc10> <130889@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> <mcirvin.711673227@husc8> <1992Jul21.141253.17366@jlc.mv.com> Sender: news@sun13.scri.fsu.edu Reply-To: jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr) Organization: SCRI, Florida State University Lines: 31