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Article #12915Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: hhyapster
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:53
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:53
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On Jul 15, 4:30 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > Steve O wrote: > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >news:a3c2b9ae-59ae-4bfd-b7cf-fcda98b26225@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > >> On Jul 14, 5:12�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > >>>news:44f19f98-4d96-4419-a87a-d6bdbd73f31b@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > > >>> >> > Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry > >>> Potter >> > has > >>> >> > to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in > >>> Harry > >>> >> > Potter. > > >>> >> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the > >>> >> fact > >>> >> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we have > >>> >> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction. > > >>> >> By your reasoning at least. > > >>> > Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is. > >>> > Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean. > >>> > Robert B. Winn > > >>> Here is an example of rbwinn's logic. > > >>> Sheep are mentioned in the bible > >>> Sheep exist today > >>> The bible is accurate and there is a God > > >>> -- > >>> Steve O > >> Well, no, Steve O. Here is an example. Atheists were claiming that > >> nothing existed on earth today that could prove anything in the > >> Bible. So I said, What about Hezekiah's tunnel? These atheists had > >> never heard of Hezekiah's tunnel. So after they looked it up, they > >> said, The fact that a tunnel exists no more proves the Bible to be > >> true than Harry Potter leaving from the train station in London to go > >> to wizard's school. > > > Here's where you get confused every time. (or deliberately lie) > > When they said "nothing exists on earth today that could prove anything > > in the bible" they were talking about the SPECIAL claims in the bible, > > not the ordinary mundane things such as tunnels, sheep, goats or shekels. > > Yet, for some reason, you choose to lie about this and attribute claims > > to atheists which don't exist. > > You are either a complete liar or you are stuck on stupid. > > Both. > Its fairly clear our robbo is probably schizoid, probably desperately > confused, and probably on medication, and has access to a terminal.And > is not the brightest candle in the coal mine. > > He's desperately trying to put some meaning in his life, to make some > sense of it, and the Bible is his latest bag. It probably puts some > hope in a hopeless life. > > He's just smart enough to see what a mess his life is, but not smart > enough to work out how to change it by himself: so naturally he looks > for help. No one has probably given him any, but the bible makes him a > promise. By fixating on the Jesus symbol, he at least has one constant > thing to cling to and some hope. In short, he is addicted to Jesus. > > It's probably slightly better than being addicted to smack, and its > certainly a lot cheaper. > > I've met more than a few robbos in my time. There's probably some > intelligence there, but coupled to an unusual mental condition. Such > peoples experience is not ordinary, and their attempts to make sense of > it result in some pretty weird ways of thinking about it and dealing > with it. Often they get involved in some cult or other. Or end up > prematurely dead from drug overdoses and the like. Or go off the rails > and start seeing visions and end up in the funny farm. Probably very true of rbwinn. When he told us that he is a welder, I actually wrote some real advise for him to work hard and look forward towards a retirement, instead of wasting time in the church on Sundays. Sundays pay thrice as much. However, my email could not get through...
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