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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#12915
From: hhyapster
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:53
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On Jul 15, 4:30 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> Steve O wrote:
>
> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >news:a3c2b9ae-59ae-4bfd-b7cf-fcda98b26225@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Jul 14, 5:12�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>
> >>>news:44f19f98-4d96-4419-a87a-d6bdbd73f31b@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>> >> > Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry
> >>> Potter >> > has
> >>> >> > to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in
> >>> Harry
> >>> >> > Potter.
>
> >>> >> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the
> >>> >> fact
> >>> >> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we have
> >>> >> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction.
>
> >>> >> By your reasoning at least.
>
> >>> > Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is.
> >>> > Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean.
> >>> > Robert B. Winn
>
> >>> Here is an example of rbwinn's logic.
>
> >>> Sheep are mentioned in the bible
> >>> Sheep exist today
> >>> The bible is accurate and there is a God
>
> >>> --
> >>> Steve O
> >> Well, no, Steve O.  Here is an example.  Atheists were claiming that
> >> nothing existed on earth today that could prove anything in the
> >> Bible.  So I said, What about Hezekiah's tunnel?  These atheists had
> >> never heard of Hezekiah's tunnel.  So after they looked it up, they
> >> said, The fact that a tunnel exists no more proves the Bible to be
> >> true than Harry Potter leaving from the train station in London to go
> >> to wizard's school.
>
> > Here's where you get confused every time. (or deliberately lie)
> > When they said "nothing exists on earth today that could prove anything
> > in the bible" they were talking about the SPECIAL claims in the bible,
> > not the ordinary mundane things such as tunnels, sheep, goats or shekels.
> > Yet, for some reason, you choose to lie about this and attribute claims
> > to atheists which  don't exist.
> > You are either a complete liar or you are stuck on stupid.
>
> Both.
> Its fairly clear our robbo is probably schizoid, probably desperately
> confused, and probably on medication, and has access to a terminal.And
> is not the brightest candle in the coal mine.
>
> He's desperately trying to put some meaning in his life, to make some
> sense of it, and the Bible is his latest bag.  It probably puts some
> hope in a hopeless life.
>
> He's just smart enough to see what a mess his life is, but not smart
> enough to work out how to change it by himself: so naturally he looks
> for help. No one has probably given him any, but the bible makes him a
> promise. By fixating on the Jesus symbol, he at least has one constant
> thing to cling to and some hope. In short, he is addicted to Jesus.
>
> It's probably slightly better than being addicted to smack, and its
> certainly a lot cheaper.
>
> I've met more than a few robbos in my time. There's probably some
> intelligence there, but coupled to an unusual mental condition. Such
> peoples experience is not ordinary, and their attempts to make sense of
> it result in some pretty weird ways of thinking about it and dealing
> with it. Often they get involved in some cult or other. Or end up
> prematurely dead from drug overdoses and the like. Or go off the rails
> and start seeing visions and end up in the funny farm.

Probably very true of rbwinn.
When he told us that he is a welder, I actually wrote some real advise
for him to work hard and look forward towards a retirement, instead of
wasting time in the church on Sundays. Sundays pay thrice as much.
However, my email could not get through...
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Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
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