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Article #1294Re: Chaos
From: John C. Baez
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:19
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:19
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In article <1992Jul20.153122.29180@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass) writes: >In article <1076@kepler1.rentec.com> andrew@rentec.com (Andrew Mullhaupt) writes: >>OK but there is still a universal attractor for the N-S equations as >>rigorously proved by Foias et. al. The dimension is about 500 (as one >>expects from various other estimates). Renormalization is not necessary >>for an attractor, although the Orszag-Yahot theory is essentially a >>renormalization theory. The Foias stuff can be found in the book by >>Foias and Constantine, but I think the attractor theorems came after >>his book with Roger Temam, although my memory may be playing tricks. > Is this the 'universal attractor' for 2-D NS with periodic and > dirichlet BC's? Could someone elaborate a bit more on this idea and what precisely was proved? I find it rather odd. I seem to recall that the 2-D nonlinear Schrodinger equation with cubic nonlinearity is completely integrable (let's take periodic boundary conditions, say). What sort of nonlinearities does Foias consider, and what is a "universal attractor"?
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Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.math Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!usc!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!galois!nevanlinna!jbaez From: jbaez@nevanlinna.mit.edu (John C. Baez) Subject: Re: Chaos Message-ID: <1992Jul21.211921.17976@galois.mit.edu> Sender: news@galois.mit.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: nevanlinna Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics, Cambridge, MA References: <1992Jul15.145101.13858@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> <1076@kepler1.rentec.com> <1992Jul20.153122.29180@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 21:19:21 GMT Lines: 18