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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#12982
From: BuddyThunder
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:50
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Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) wrote:
> On Jul 14, 10:51 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 13, 7:13 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>
>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>> On Jul 14, 10:39 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>> On Jul 13, 3:26 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 12, 11:59 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 12:01�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Linda Fox" <linda...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:8vih74pvkgdkcmula0art55aogmd3pvne1@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:20:29 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> A two year old is learning to lie or tell the truth. �If a two year
>>>>>>>>>>> old sees its parents lie all the time, then the two year old is going
>>>>>>>>>>> to do the same thing.
>>>>>>>>>> Ho-kayyyy - tell us please, because we'd love to know, how a
>>>>>>>>>> two-year-old can tell its parents are lying when it does not know the
>>>>>>>>>> truth itself. Unless it's by watching the nose grow longer and longer.
>>>>>>>>>> Linda ff
>>>>>>>>> This man obviously has no children.
>>>>>>>>> He has absolutely no idea what a two year old can or can't do.
>>>>>>>>> Look, Bobby, he's two.
>>>>>>>>> He has no fucking clue what an atheist or a theist is.
>>>>>>>>> He's under my feet right now, pushing toy cars around the floor and
>>>>>>>>> shouting, "Beep Beep"
>>>>>>>>> He doesn't even know what a lie is, so how can you expect him to recognize
>>>>>>>>> one?
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>>>> He does not even care.  All he is doing is what he sees you doing.  If
>>>>>>>> he finds lying to be more effective in getting what he wants, he is
>>>>>>>> going to lie.
>>>>>>> Well lets hope he nenver gets involved in religion then, so he wont need to.
>>>>>> How are you going to shield him from the Lorentz equations?  If he
>>>>>> goes to school there are books everywhere explaining the miracle of
>>>>>> length contraction.
>>>>> What miracle?
>>>>> If he is smart enough, he wont need to have it explained, he will work
>>>>> it out for himself: if he isn't smart enough, he will simply ignore it
>>>>> as irrelevant to his life.
>>>>> What he will never get, is someone telling him its the Truth, and if he
>>>>> doesn't believe it, he will go to hell for eternity.
>>>> Scientists say that the Lorentz equations show that an object in
>>>> motion contracts in length relative to a frame of reference at rest
>>>> until at the speed of light, the object has a length of zero.  So you
>>>> are bringing up your son in a religion called atheism that has one
>>>> miracle.
>>>> Whether it is many miracles or only one, a miracle is a miracle.
>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>> What makes you think Lorentz equations are part of atheism?
>>> Is it the same delusion that has you repeatedly posting garbage into
>>> alt.atheism?
>> Most scientists of today are atheists.  I was discussing the Lorentz
>> equations with scientists in sci.physics.relativity when you atheists
>> butted into the conversation in that newsgroup.
>> Robert B. Winn
> 
> Most scientists today are atheists, yes.  But it's like saying most
> people with blonde hair have blue eyes.  The two things aren't
> actually related.
> And you keep lying about how you started this.  One fruitcake who
> claims to be both a scientist and a christian (but bizarely doesn't
> understand rainbows) cross-posted originally and you waded in with
> your lies and confusion into a topic that was already about proving
> this god thing.  And proceeded to lie about everyone.
> And now you keep using this myth you've invented about atheists
> posting into YOUR conversation about physics.

I think the two could be related. Not saying they are, I think that it's 
likely though. Just my opinion.
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