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Article #12986Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: BuddyThunder
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:57
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:57
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DanielSan wrote: > rbwinn wrote: >> On Jul 14, 2:41 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >>> rbwinn wrote: >>>> On Jul 13, 3:28 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>> On Jul 13, 12:05 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 1:55 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >>>>>>>>> The Loan Arranger wrote: >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 3:52�am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> The fact that it could all be prophesied does not mean >>>>>>>>>>>>> �that God >>>>>>>>>>>>> approved of it. �It just meant it was going to take place. >>>>>>>>>>>> You mean he was powerless to stop it? Wow! That must really >>>>>>>>>>>> have chafed. >>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ could have stopped his crucifixion any time he >>>>>>>>>>> chose to >>>>>>>>>>> do it. >>>>>>>>>> "Hey, guys - guys! Just kidding, honest, c'mon, let's get >>>>>>>>>> these nails >>>>>>>>>> out, shake hands, and ... uh, guys? Guys? HEY GUYS, CUT ME A >>>>>>>>>> BREAK HERE!" >>>>>>>>>> TLA >>>>>>>>> The concept of god is necessary to put a himan face on the >>>>>>>>> reflection of >>>>>>>>> the mystrious Universe in men's minds, so that when they gaze >>>>>>>>> at it, and >>>>>>>>> teh only bits they recognize as faintly familiar , are their own >>>>>>>>> reflections, they don't get frightened to death. >>>>>>>>> Atheism is for those who have the courage to see it as it >>>>>>>>> really is.. >>>>>>>>> Religion is just the kiddy bedtime story copout. >>>>>>>> So why is it then that Old Testament prophets were put to death, >>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>> the Baptist was beheaded, Jesus was crucified, his apostles >>>>>>>> suffered >>>>>>>> martyrs' deaths, religious reformers were burned at the stake, Jews >>>>>>>> were put in extermination camps, Communist regimes killed most >>>>>>>> clergy, >>>>>>>> etc.? >>>>>>>> If religion is such a bedtime story, why do so many religious >>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>> get killed for their beliefs? >>>>>>> Probably because they are a bunch of hypocritical liars, like you >>>>>>> are. >>>>>>> Plenty of people die rather than face the truth. >>>>>>> Anyway, since they are all on the way to a Better Life, they >>>>>>> shouldn't >>>>>>> complain if someone helps them along the way, should they? >>>>>>> Tell me, as a devout Christian (allegedly: `It's hard to believe >>>>>>> anything you say) will death be something you avoid, or something >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> is simply going to be the best thing that has ever happened to you? >>>>>>> If teh latter, would you like a hand? >>>>>> Death is something that is going to happen. With regard to the >>>>>> hereafter, what happens there is bound to be better than what >>>>>> happened >>>>>> to me in this life. >>>>> I wouldn't bet on it: If you cant hack this life, you dont have much >>>>> chance in hacking the hereafter. Perhaps the reason you cant hack this >>>>> life is you spent it clinging to something that didn't work, >>>>> because you >>>>> hadn't the courage to throw away your crutches, and get up and walk. >>>>> There's a bit about that in the bible as well. But you probably didn't >>>>> understand that either. >>>> What makes you think I cannot hack this life? >>> Your statement abut how hard you found it. >>> I think you are suffereing from the early stages of dementia. >>> >>> You are foregetting what you said again. >>> >> Well, you try getting out of a mental institution some time. I think >> the reason I was able to do it was because I learned to talk to >> atheists. Whenever I would talk to psychiatrists, I would talk about >> medical malpractice. > > > Talking to atheists is something you're doing very poorly at. I'd be happy if he could just talk to people, without making blanketing, bigoted statements about whole groups of people. I suppose he genuinely believes all atheists and mental health practitioners to all be totally debased moral degenerates. Bad thinking.
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