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Article #12987Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: The Natural Philosopher
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:00
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:00
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hhyapster@gmail.com wrote: > > First you must realize that atoms are materials, existed in this real > world, measurable, detectable even when we can't see them. > Your god is an "imaginary" thing...nothing real and not measurable, > not detectable, not even believable. Now that is where you are wrong. Atoms do not exist in the material world: they exist in a conceptual space in principle no different to his God. Like his god, they are noumenous hypotheses. *Unlike* his God, they are sufficiently precisely defined to be tested, and have not failed the tests *so far*. That means that unlike biblical prophecies, the equations that govern their behaviour - or describe them, if you prefer - CAN be used to predict the future with an alarmingly high degree of accuracy and in considerable detail. In specific areas anyway. In the final analysis, God is an *emotional* explanation, atoms are a scientific and technical one. The purpose of the god explanation is to make people *feel better*. Like any placebo, it need not be based on anything that is real in a material or indeed scientific sense. >> Gordon >
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