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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: hhyapster
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:07
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On Jul 15, 9:58 am, Antares 531 <gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:34:50 -0700 (PDT), hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
> >On Jul 14, 8:55 pm, Antares 531 <gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:08:07 -0700 (PDT), hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
> (snip)
>
> >> >So, all things are different in your god's perspective....pls tell
> >> >every one here how is that useful for human, then?
> >> >This is exactly what I have said, the god's heaven is for god, what
> >> >has that got to do with human?
>
> >> This mortal phase of our existence is temporary, and is primarily a
> >> means for learning about sin and rebellion. We learn jointly and
> >> separately about sin and rebellion, and when we've moved on to
> >> immortal existence we should never want to go back and explore it any
> >> further.   Gordon
>
> >OK, I know what you mean.
> >However, we do not believe that there is a human world and a virtual
> >world.
>
> This is where Superstring Membrane (SSM) theory seems to fit in so
> well. Those extra dimensions and other universes closely associated
> with our perceivable universe seem to corroborate the Biblical seven
> levels of Heaven quite well.
Before you go further, please give us a valid reason that there is
seven levels of heaven....when it can be 70 levels.
>
> >When human die, there is no spirit or soul that depart from our body
> >to stay "alive" immortally.
>
> This can not be verified. But, in view of the fact that many of the
> "physical" properties and interactions of this perceivable universe
> are, at the quantum level, jumping back and forth between the other
> universes of the multiverse, it doesn't seem to far fetched that there
> could be some form of consciousness that links with our minds and
> survives beyond our mortal death. A computer back-up onto a remote
> storage medium, sort of thing, perhaps.
Now, who is the one that says that this universe in quantum level jump
between multiverse?
When you mention computer backups, you are talking about real things
in the real world, dealing with real data.
When you mention the above, you are essentially dealing with
perceptions, mind wave, thinking and imaginations...all wishful, for
you to fit into your concept of god.
I am just thinking you are trying to equate electron with god, but at
least here you are closer to a realistic world.
But, multiverse....this is beyond any body's imagination.
>
> >Its just a wishful thinking.
> >Also, you would not know what condition existed in the virtual
> >world....it may really be a "hell" to you spirit. But since no one
> >ever come back to tell, you assume it to be there and to be able to
> >enjoy.
> >This is what I called a great flaw in your thinking.
>
> All we have on this is the information given us in the Word of God,
> the Bible. But this Biblical information seems to fit so congruently
> with the known physical world properties we do understand, I don't see
> how it can be tossed aside.
If you above is associated or related to bible, then i would say you
are worse than I thought.
You equate yourself with the mentality of people 2000 years ago.
There is no biblical information of any value...except that you should
willingly give 10% of your hard earned money to your preacher.
>
> Gordon
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Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
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