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Article #13003Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:29
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:29
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On Jul 14, 5:59�pm, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > news:3b25de14-589a-476f-b593-e7d06e72c269@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com... > > God is not powerless to stop the killing of his followers. �He does it > all the time. �However, when the time comes that someone's work on > earth is done, the wicked are allowed to do what they want to do. > Notice that the wicked tried to kill Jesus Christ several times during > his life,. but were unable to do it until he had accomplished the > Atonement in the Garden of Gethsemane. �Then they were able to crucify > him. �His work on earth was finished. > > ============= > > His atonement was his crucifixion and death. > It had nothing to do with Gethsemane. You are incorrect about that. The Atonement for the sins of the world took place in the Garden of Gethsemane. Jesus Christ's physical death took place on the cross. His physical death was no more remarkable than the death of any other person tortured to death by the Romans, other than the fact that he forgave the people who did it. Robert B. Winn Robert B. Winn
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