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Article #13036Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: The Natural Philosopher
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:37
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:37
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 14, 2:49 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 13, 3:38 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 13, 12:13�am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >>>>>> Smiler wrote: >>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:b0d2514b-bcc4-4cc6-bc43-51ac8ec9e420@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>> On Jul 11, 8:16 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 12:33 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 8:47?pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 7:16 am, James Burns <burns...@osu.edu> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 3:04 pm, James Burns <burns...@osu.edu> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> You seem to be arguing that God is not responsible for >>>>>>>>>>>>> anything. That seems to fit well with my own position, >>>>>>>>>>>>> although we do arrive there from very different >>>>>>>>>>>>> directions. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Keep up the good work. We'll make an atheist of you yet. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Just kidding. I don't really believe you're serious when >>>>>>>>>>>>> you argue this way. A few posts after you post how God >>>>>>>>>>>>> is responsible for nothing, you will post that God is >>>>>>>>>>>>> responsible for everything. >>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no consistency in what you write, but maybe >>>>>>>>>>>>> you see no problem in that. Do you see logic as a trap for >>>>>>>>>>>>> the conscience? >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you atheists were the ones who were saying God >>>>>>>>>>>> should be indicted for murder because natural deaths >>>>>>>>>>>> occur. ?Which court do you plan to file that case in? >>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>>> : And God spake all these words, saying, >>>>>>>>>>> : I am the LORD thy God, >>>>>>>>>>> : which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, >>>>>>>>>>> : out of the house of bondage. >>>>>>>>>>> : Thou shalt have no other gods before me. >>>>>>>>>>> : [...] >>>>>>>>>>> : Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. >>>>>>>>>>> : [...] >>>>>>>>>>> Exodus 20:1-3,16 >>>>>>>>>>> Just a reminder. >>>>>>>>>>> You know, it's kind of sad how you can only defend >>>>>>>>>>> your beliefs by lying -- which is the same, of >>>>>>>>>>> course, as admitting you can't defend them at all. >>>>>>>>>>> Jim Burns >>>>>>>>>> Funny, now all pastors and preachers are say: Thou shalt give me all >>>>>>>>>> your money..... >>>>>>>>>> Which is the reason why the US TV preachers own big villa, jet plane, >>>>>>>>>> bodyguards, women....- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>> Well, those people represent themselves and their own financial >>>>>>>>> interests. They are basically con men. >>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>> Are you saying those many people get conned easily? >>>>>> Sure. GW Bus=h got elected didn't he? Living proof of the adage that you >>>>>> can fool most of the people most of the time. Especially naive Xtians. >>>>>>>> Much like you want to con us into believing your non-existed god and >>>>>>>> Jesus, so that we would donate some money to treat your sickness?- Hide >>>>>>>> quoted text - >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>> I told you from the beginning to decide for yourself what you >>>>>>> believe. >>>>>>> Matthew 7:22 � Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we >>>>>>> not prophewsied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and >>>>>>> in thy name done many wonderful works? >>>>>>> 23 �And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: �depart from >>>>>>> me, ye that work iniquity. >>>>>> I think that means Robbo. He is patently a satanist. >>>>>>> ============================================ >>>>>>> Harry Potter left from platform 9 &3/4 to go to Hogwarts wizard school. >>>>>>> That makes as much sense as you wholly babble quotations. >>>>>> well at lest its more amusing to read, and no one require that you >>>>>> believe it to be literally true.. >>>>> Well, you have not talked to any of your fellow atheists lately. >>>> Actually I have. >>>>> Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry Potter has >>>>> to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in Harry >>>>> Potter. >>>> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the fact >>>> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we have >>>> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction. >>>> By your reasoning at least. >>> Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is. >>> Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean. >> It means that your thinking has no logic. >> >> ergo rational argument with someone who has no logic, and will lie >> freely and easily and evade all responsibility for it by changing the >> subject and picking random statements, taking them out of context and >> rearranging them to seem to mean what he wants them to mean, is not >> possible. >> >> In short you do with any comments or reasonable arguments the same that >> you have done to the Bible, you profane it by rearranging it to seem to >> mean what you want it to mean, using lies and evasions every time the >> hypocritical contradictions in your worldview become obvious. >> >> In short you are the sorriest example of a self avowed Christian it has >> ever been my misfortune to meet. You are a complete disrace to your >> society, your country, and your religion, and ultimately the human race. >> >> > Well, you are certainly welcome to your own opinion. I do not pay > much attention to it myself. if only it were true that you paid little attention to your own opinion, you might become to some extent a wiser man. > Robert B. Winn
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