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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message 
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On Jul 11, 5:18?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
> "The Natural Philosopher" <a...@b.c> wrote in 
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> > rbwinn wrote:
> >> On Jul 10, 5:20?am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>> Alex W. wrote:
> >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> >>>> Without religion to oppose, atheists would do nothing at all.
> >>> Thats not true. They just would walk away from any discussion on the
> >>> subject thankfully, and get on with living, and in some case, trying 
> >>> to
> >>> understand the extraordinary universe we seem to find ourselves in.
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> >>> Really the transition fom a Gaia type animism picture of the universe,
> >>> to a personalised supernatural creator and law giver, to an impersonal
> >>> set of amoral laws..is not as abrupt as the fanboys would like to 
> >>> think.
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> >>> What is unusual, historically, is the fanatical faith needed to 
> >>> maintain
> >>> the concept of a personal and moral God, in the face of Reason.
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> >>> Mediaevally speaking, no one questioned that the world and events 
> >>> moved
> >>> according to some vast and ineffable and mysterious pattern, and the
> >>> concept of a supernatural intelligence and a plan, was pretty
> >>> reasonable..until science started uncovering the rules, which turned 
> >>> out
> >>> to be mindlessly simple, totally impersonal and implacable, and
> >>> impervious to personal appeal. And no evidence of intelligence at all.
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> >>> Note that none of this necessarily negates the proposition that faith,
> >>> belief, prayer, and a live lived AS IF there were an afterlife,is not 
> >>> a
> >>> Good Thing for people and civilisations.
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> >>> But none of these even indicate that what is believed in must of
> >>> necessity be true.
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> >>> Archers were able to hit targets long before Newton identified the 
> >>> Force
> >>> of Gravity.
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> >>> Understanding of the presumed science behind phenonmena is no
> >>> pre-requisite for learning to deal with them. Any ad-hoc theory that 
> >>> has
> >>> pragmatic use will do.
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> >>> If you look at religion in that light, it makes a lot of sense.
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> >>> Mired in dogma however, the fanatical Theist simply persists in the
> >>> useless, long past its sell-by date.
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> >> If atheists want to believe that they are not intelligent, I see no
> >> problem with that.
> >> Robert B. Winn
> > And how is that in any way relevant to what I posted?
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> You expect relevance from this moron?
> He can't even manage coherence, logic or truth.
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As I said before, your Ho whack posts were your best ones.
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I see my aim is improving.

Smiler,
The godless one
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