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Article #13395Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Smiler
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:37
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:37
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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message news:311b123e-f0f0-40ff-b746-9799ff8056a5@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... On Jul 11, 5:18?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote: > "The Natural Philosopher" <a...@b.c> wrote in > messagenews:1215765710.4836.0@proxy02.news.clara.net... > > > > > > > rbwinn wrote: > >> On Jul 10, 5:20?am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >>> Alex W. wrote: > >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>news:08134c4b-46c5-454f-9a5f-47756eddfd59@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > >>>> Without religion to oppose, atheists would do nothing at all. > >>> Thats not true. They just would walk away from any discussion on the > >>> subject thankfully, and get on with living, and in some case, trying > >>> to > >>> understand the extraordinary universe we seem to find ourselves in. > > >>> Really the transition fom a Gaia type animism picture of the universe, > >>> to a personalised supernatural creator and law giver, to an impersonal > >>> set of amoral laws..is not as abrupt as the fanboys would like to > >>> think. > > >>> What is unusual, historically, is the fanatical faith needed to > >>> maintain > >>> the concept of a personal and moral God, in the face of Reason. > > >>> Mediaevally speaking, no one questioned that the world and events > >>> moved > >>> according to some vast and ineffable and mysterious pattern, and the > >>> concept of a supernatural intelligence and a plan, was pretty > >>> reasonable..until science started uncovering the rules, which turned > >>> out > >>> to be mindlessly simple, totally impersonal and implacable, and > >>> impervious to personal appeal. And no evidence of intelligence at all. > > >>> Note that none of this necessarily negates the proposition that faith, > >>> belief, prayer, and a live lived AS IF there were an afterlife,is not > >>> a > >>> Good Thing for people and civilisations. > > >>> But none of these even indicate that what is believed in must of > >>> necessity be true. > > >>> Archers were able to hit targets long before Newton identified the > >>> Force > >>> of Gravity. > > >>> Understanding of the presumed science behind phenonmena is no > >>> pre-requisite for learning to deal with them. Any ad-hoc theory that > >>> has > >>> pragmatic use will do. > > >>> If you look at religion in that light, it makes a lot of sense. > > >>> Mired in dogma however, the fanatical Theist simply persists in the > >>> useless, long past its sell-by date. > > >>>> ========== > >>>> ..... other than get on with our lives ....- Hide quoted text - > >>> - Show quoted text - > > >> If atheists want to believe that they are not intelligent, I see no > >> problem with that. > >> Robert B. Winn > > And how is that in any way relevant to what I posted? > > You expect relevance from this moron? > He can't even manage coherence, logic or truth. > > Smiler, > The godless one > a.a.# 2279- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Atheists believe that intelligence is nothing more than electrical impulses. ===================================== Someone's 'pulled' the fuses in your brain. Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
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X-Google-Thread: 10b271,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Thread: 102f53,dac8026861d35fee X-Google-Thread: f442a,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Thread: 116469,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,gid102f53,gidf442a,gid116469,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!news.astraweb.com!border2.a.newsrouter.astraweb.com!eweka.nl!hq-usenetpeers.eweka.nl!69.16.177.246.MISMATCH!cyclone03.ams!news.ams.newshosting.com!npeersf02.ams!newsfe12.ams2.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism References: <6cuh4dF3houn9U1@mid.individual.net> <1215165241.22790.2@proxy02.news.clara.net> <5dc0958f-9d10-436a-8604-80c14c2a8cde@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <c4cbaead-05f1-49aa-bfd9-e4b1b4947b61@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <46ae4c57-d080-4df8-acee-09ad65cf8661@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> <b11734f8-c941-45b4-91bd-aa141e895be8@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1215430282.24768.0@proxy00.news.clara.net> <2fc2333e-fec4-4a58-8800-49c95218cd4a@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <845511a1-44f9-415e-8d3f-e5212112bf3a@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <08134c4b-46c5-454f-9a5f-47756eddfd59@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <6dma49F39icqU1@mid.individual.net> <1215692488.17430.0@proxy01.news.clara.net> <395ede6d-e5fd-47d7-95d0-70b0c8b1b730@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <1215765710.4836.0@proxy02.news.clara.net> <FLSdk.61632$7v1.40566@newsfe30.ams2> <311b123e-f0f0-40ff-b746-9799ff8056a5@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists? Lines: 90 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080712-1, 12/07/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Message-ID: <20dek.207774$312.184321@newsfe12.ams2> NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.20.115.204 X-Complaints-To: http://netreport.virginmedia.com X-Trace: newsfe12.ams2 1215913086 82.20.115.204 (Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:38:06 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:38:06 EDT Organization: virginmedia.com Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:37:54 +0100