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On Jul 11, 8:03 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 11, 12:24 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > On Jul 10, 8:39 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > > On Jul 11, 6:50 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Jul 10, 3:04 pm, James Burns <burns...@osu.edu> wrote:
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> > > > > rbwinn wrote:
> > > > > > On Jul 8, 1:20�pm, James Burns <burns...@osu.edu> wrote:
> > > > > >>rbwinn wrote:
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> > > > > >>>Well, all you are doing is saying that God is guilty of
> > > > > >>>murder every time a natural death occurs. �I do not
> > > > > >>>think you will get far with that idea.
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> > > > > [...]
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> > > > > >>Assuming that you choose to clarify what you are trying to
> > > > > >>say, thanks in advance.
> > > > > > Well, according to the Bible, natural events are controlled
> > > > > > by humans on the earth.
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> > > > > If I take this as the clarification I asked for, of what
> > > > > you mean by "natural death" (which I think most people
> > > > > would consider a death that is not caused by humans,
> > > > > not cause by diseases, not caused by anything identifiable),
> > > > > then I suppose you are saying that no deaths are
> > > > > natural deaths. Do I understand you properly?
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> > > > > If this is what you mean, then you shouldn't be
> > > > > surprised if others have difficulties understanding you.
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> > > > > >                          If the people obey God's
> > > > > > commandments, they prosper in the land, the elements are
> > > > > > tempered in their favor, and their lives are safe an
> > > > > > protected by heaven.  This does not happen very often.
> > > > > >     We know that in the last days, wickedness on earth
> > > > > > will be greater than at any other time in the history
> > > > > > of earth.  So we cannot expect favorable conditions.
> > > > > >       The choice to have things this way was not God's.
> > > > > > It was made by men who reject God.  If the people in
> > > > > > Noah's day had listened to Noah, there would have been
> > > > > > no flood.  So how do you figure it was God's faullt?
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> > > > > You seem to be arguing that God is not responsible for
> > > > > anything. That seems to fit well with my own position,
> > > > > although we do arrive there from very different
> > > > > directions.
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> > > > > Keep up the good work. We'll make an atheist of you yet.
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> > > > > Just kidding. I don't really believe you're serious when
> > > > > you argue this way. A few posts after you post how God
> > > > > is responsible for nothing, you will post that God is
> > > > > responsible for everything.
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> > > > > There is no consistency in what you write, but maybe
> > > > > you see no problem in that. Do you see logic as a trap for
> > > > > the conscience?
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> > > > > Jim Burns
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> > > > Well, you atheists were the ones who were saying God should be
> > > > indicted for murder because natural deaths occur.  Which court do you
> > > > plan to file that case in?
> > > > Robert B. Winn
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> > > Wait a minute, you only include natural death, what about the sins and
> > > deaths caused by your god?
> > > All must be filed in our human court, and you must drag your god to
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> > It already happened.  He was sentenced to death.  So what do you
> > think, you are going to do it again?
> > Robert B. Winn
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> Ah, so he was dead as a human, like modern criminal die of lethal
> injection.
> So, he was no god, right?- Hide quoted text -
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Wrong.  He had power to lay down his life.  He had power to take it up
again.  He was resurrected three days after he was crucified.
Robert B. Winn